Idea to improve the Rider class

I am concerned about the motorcycle gameplay wise. Making it faster to unlock will only please most people who already want to skip it. Giving it a med box would be fine, though not enough to incentivize people to play them.

There might be a way to make this work. Only let the owner spawn in their motorcycles.

Since there is only 3 seats I guess you can have a special kind of mech.

You can only spawn 3 members at a time on the battlefield…

Then once you solders die you spawn the next 3 and so on.

If the motorcycles get destroyed then your remaining squad is dead.

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“If the motorcycles get destroyed then your remaining squad is dead.” What does this mean? Do you mean to say the motorcycle gets destroyed when your squad is destroyed?

This is an interesting proposal, though in my opinion too limited in terms of usefulness. There is only one tech tree motorcycle squad, and cycling through one squad in enlisted is not a thing. It would be fair to allow other Rider squads to spawn on it as well though. Not overpowered in any way, though I would prefer slightly more options of which troop type can be spawned.

That would be lovely

Lets say I use a squad of 6. I spawned in when 3 and die. The motorcycle randomly gets destroyed.

I lose the remaining 3 that haven’t spawn.

I think he means that if the bike spawns a squad and a player blows up the bike the squad drop dead. I like it limit it to spawning three soldiers at a time so long as the three are alive you cannot spawn more. Overlapping with the apc but not too much. Balancing the speed and size of the bike to make it a fast recon spawn to the slow big spawn apc. My bad no, just no again a bike is just too easy to hide.

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:exploding_head::exploding_head:

Awe, you too scared to get jumped by three cyclists?

If it works out this could function for teammates as well. I hate begging folks to build a rally.

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that’s the spirit. In anyways, I want this motorcycle squad to work. Most of us can agree that it’s very poor at doing what it’s intended to do. It’s horrible to drive, very susceptible to getting mowed down my gunfire, and weak in terms of manpower. It needs to make up for that with versatility. On the other hand, people in enlisted refuse to build rallies, which punishes those players who do. Any partial mend to this problem, I am in favour.

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I don’t want them spawning an entire squad three soldiers at a time all while hiding the bike in a building. How about min distance from the Target is 100 map units to the apcs 55 units. Spawn three soldiers at a time this would.mean apc slow to get to the battle but fast spawn. The rider would be fast to get to location but slow spawn further from battle.

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Now all we need is a Helper to run this by devs.

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Ok… But I am not so sure about why it is necessary to restrict even the spawn radius. I don’t think it’s that overpowered. In the best case scenario, the motorbike is a silent, but weak rally. I don’t think a three man squad is that abusive. It can’t be built on top of building’s or in tight quarters, given that the motorcycle trips over a lot of things in its path (have you tried driving it?).

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Couldn’t be too hard to implement, could it? just recycle some code, XD

I got the idea from playing lone fighter. Squad spawning is different in that mode.

So yea, they have the coding already.

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Oh you spawn the bike squad at the bike, apcs spawn any squad. So yes the ability to spawn the bike squad at the bike, um sounds good. Sorry was connecting it to much to the apc which is a mobile rally. Sounds good you bike to the point get out squad killed spawn in a new three man bike squad. Only have thee soldiers at any point, my bad again yep in fact if that’s the case let them spawn close lol.

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Move SPAA and other armored vehicles (AB41, etc.) to this Rider class so they aren’t taking the tank slot and expand their usefulness, act more like a fire support vehicle.

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Just give them the ability to use their second slots to take mortars, AT weapons and hammers (flamethrowers?) for goodness sake
Its not like 3 guys with panzerfausts on wheels that take more skill to operate than a nuclear reactor will be op, anyone takes the other unlockables in the squad anyway so the rider class will at least have some use
Potentially, if your bike could act like a para box and you could swap your secondary at it (hammer to AT or maybe even some other weapon you put inside idk) perhaps that would compensate somewhat for the utter uselessness of these 3-man cripples

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motorcycles are more recon/ light troop deployment vehicles, not really fire support. Also, does you suggestion imply that we may bring armoured cars+ tanks into the battle? since tank and rider squads are separate, that would mean that br 1 battles can be chok full of armoured cars zooming around. DF isn’t likely to implement this. Also they would have to add spaa’s.

:exploding_head:o

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