Well, they were very scattered and we don’t know exactly how many there were.
They’re rare to find, especially because photographers at the time didn’t even notice, so many of them might have passed by but never been captured in photos (and they weren’t always in Italian uniform).
The photographers never thought that this random photographic evidence would be useful 80 years later to discuss a historical event they didn’t even know about on a digital forum.
Yeah, that’s the first time I heard about italians in Normandy. When you dive into the details of D-Day, you can see that alongside american and british ships, there were also canadian, free french, polish, norwegian, dutch, and even greek ships, but italian soldiers fighting alongside germans in Normandy ? I had never heard of this before, and I always like to find these little informations, so it really is something that not much people know. In fact, the korean guy in the german army might be more well-known than the italians who fought there too.
You get a like, as usual, just because “more subfactions good”.
If the devs don’t want people to advocate for fully seperate factions then they should give us the full subfaction-support that we deserve.
I would respect the “don’t seperate the playerbase” crowd more if half of them weren’t telling people to “play another game if you don’t like [x]” inside other topics on this forum, it seems kind of hollow to utter both statements and then also not support actions/changes that would help with player retention (and aquisition).
Also, as a sidenote, a seperate Italian faction would be so cool, and could potentially be one of the most diverse in terms of unique battlefields/enviorments, and unique in being able to match with both sides of the war.
We’ve got the entire North African theatre (should be expanded to include Tobruk and El Alamein maps) and Stalingrad from the current game, but could also be expanded to include:
East African Campaign (rarely covered by any video game)
Invasion of Sicily
At least a couple maps in mainland Italy itself, and (here’s the kicker) matchmaking with BOTH SIDES at the same time, being able to queue up with the Germans against the Allies and the Allies to fight the Germans.
Yeah, that’s why I said that my concept could appeal to players who want subfactions and those who want a new tree, because I think my concept is a bit like both at the same time.
But yeah, the italian theaters of war could be pretty cool and unique as you said. I don’t think Ethiopia (eastern Africa) has ever been covered in a video game. For the italians, there could also be Greece, Yugoslavia, southern France at the beginning of WW2 and also the region of Corsica, and of course mainland Italy. The subreddit I suggested has a lot of interesting pictures of italians on different theaters of war.
It is also why I said that we could apply this concept to other nations as well: Hungary, Romania, France, etc… Because you wouldn’t have to research the copy-paste guns again, because the progression on the research of these copy-paste guns would be common to all trees. A french tree could look like this: unique french guns and vehicles at tier 1-2, and copy-paste british and US vehicles in tier 3-4-5, because the standard equipment of the free french was mainly british at first, and american later.
Another fun fact: the germans also never used the Kiraly, so this would become a unique gun exclusive to the hungarian tree/subfaction.
UK got a fair amount of M1 Garand that they distributed to the Home Guard. They also used the M1 carbine. But for US, there are still other options of guns, most notably, I think about Thompsons with 20 round mags, or the M1917 and M1919A4 machine guns (I am thinking about a new mechanic for these guns that I will suggest one day). But you have no idea how it makes me cringe when you have US soldiers using SMLEs, Stens, Brens or Lanchesters.
You do not see to understand that is the point the US gets to give and give and the UK commonwealth gets to take and take. Also the home guard did a lot of fighting in ww2 did they. It makes me cringe seeing the us loose a lot of gear to a sub faction. Taking its own gear which is fine but than also keeping US gear. Yes its historically accurate but its also greedy sorry but no you dont get a subfaction that does nothing but loot. How generous the US gets to keep some of their own gear.
wow the us can keep using US, the Thompsons with 20 round mags, or the M1917 and M1919A4 machine guns. Nut UK/CW gets to take SMLEs, Stens, Brens or Lanchesters. So what does the US get for giving M1928, M1 rifle and carbine cause it seems like nothing. History is good but this seems more like a robbery than a split.
None of the British Home Guard saw combat against German invaders during WWII. No invasion of Great Britain by Germany ever occurred, so they were never called upon to fight in their intended capacity.
While the Home Guard never saw combat, they still served important roles:
The Home Guard was a volunteer militia, originally known as the Local Defence Volunteers (LDV), comprised of men generally too old or unfit for regular service, along with younger men in protected professions. Despite never facing the enemy in combat, their purpose was clear: to defend their homes, neighborhoods, and families from a German invasion if it had ever taken place.
No Home guard weapons for a UK/CW subfaction normally i wouldnt care but a subfaction that takes all its stuff back and forgets to leave things behind it didnt make. sorry but its seems a one way breakup that hurts the us far less than the UK/CM.
You do realize that the Northover projector was mainly used by the Home Guard, and that it saw pretty much 0 action, but somehow it is the standard projector of the allies in the game ?
And for the US, if you dig a little, you can still find more weapons that were adopted, you can still find the M1903A3 (that many people are asking for with only iron sights), same goes for the M1A1 carbine (lots of people are asking for this gun to be in the tree too), a bunch of shotguns only used by the US (they were the nation that used this type of weapon the most), the M2 Hyde (not used, but still officially adopted), the M42 (used by OSS operatives), the M55 Reising; the UK would not have access to many Bazooka variants either, they just used the PIAT.
If the devs are willing to do it, there is enough material for both trees/subfactions. Now one of the problems of some guns that I have cited above is the fact that some of them are in the game, but as premiums, but I have no doubt that some decent replacements can be found for those premium guns:
-The M42 ? Adopted in 9 mm, but prototypes in .45 ACP existed
-The M2 Hyde ? It is in the game, but with a 20 round mag, and given the fact that it used the Thompson mags, you can put a 30 round mag version in the tree
-The M55 Reising ? We can probably still find a decent replacement for that.
-The M1A1 carbine ? There is a metric ton of similar carbines designed by the US during WW2, the one we have ingame is the version that won the contest
I am on PC, I will post two pics from a book made by gun Jesus from my phone.
But the thing is, if people are motivated, there would be enough unique material exclusive to the US tree/subfaction.
Well, I tried to find a way to put the mustache, I didn’t find how to do it, sorry. But I guess I could say that I participated to your movement with this topic. 
Also, what does NIEM mean ?
National Italian Enlisted Movement
i will use small words in small sentences, UK commonwealth get to use UK/CW gear UK get to use US gear. The US gets to use US gear and checks bottom of the bag nothing. You are removing UK/CW gear from US tech tree no dah, you then copy caste US gear to UK/CW. The US on the other hand looses UK gear and gets to keep its own gear. US is singing all i do is loose, loose, losse, while UK/CW sings all i do is win win win. Maybe if for some reason US got all French gear for the allies it be an up but as of now a subfaction is all down. wait you mean, gasp the us gets to give theM1 carbine and rifle to UK/CW and does not loose access to it so generous.
Bruh, I just gave you a few ideas to replace the british guns by american guns just above. You don’t have to be pissed just because the US and the UK would both have the Thompson (and only the M1928 variants, the M1 variants would still be exclusive to the US). The US still had the M2 Hyde, the M3 or the Reising, plus a bunch of shotguns unique to them. I just checked the number of things that would be removed from the US nation/subfaction, and there aren’t too much things tbh, and it is located between ranks 1 and 3, nothing would be removed from ranks 4 and 5.
And you seem to think that the UK would have a metric ton of unique guns, but not so much: Stens (all variants and the Lanchester and Patchett, because yes, these guns are basically all the same, just like the US would be with all the Thompson variants), the Owen, the Lee Enfield/SMLE (basically the same guns too), the Ross, the Bren (all variants), the Vickers-Berthier (which is slightly different to the Bren, but it wouldn’t be too much different ingame), and the VGO. There, you already have two thirds of the UK/CW tree/subfaction done.
And as I said, there is still a lot of guns that could be added to the US tree/subfaction that only the US used.
1903A3 already have four 1903s:scream:
M1A1 again don’t care 
M2 Hyde 
M42 :+1 German HC MG
M55 out of five are variations that would be hard to tell apart with a magnifying class and a book
One is an enemy gun but fun and only one is truly original
If it was just the Thompson take it as a gift
But you want the M1 carbine, M1 rifle I am betting the BAR, a few Sherman and not just the firefly
Thank copying almost all us iconic weapons but the 1903 scoped and not outside of airplanes
If you not talking the bazookas I am betting you want the German Faust’s so don’t act like it’s a sacrifice
So make a list of ‘us’ weapons and I bet it’s as long or longer than the number of UK/CW weapons you are taking from the tech tree
Second UK/CW is taking UK/cw weapons and us while giving back ‘opens empty hand’ it’s a straight downgrade for US player and an upgrade slot UK/CW
It’s a great deal for UK/CW not so much US who loses a lot of flavor
So what if the post is included it’s a UK weapon
Letting them steal us m1 rifle and carbine be used the national guard had it
But what it comes down to us the uk gets UK canadia Australia South Africq Ireland ect ect and US weapons and the US gets us weapons wow great deal
yes tons of american guns still to add with prototypoes but almost all the iconic weapons are in game. subfaction would be implemented in a day and take years to fill in the holes of missing UK/CW WEAPONS
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE KRAGS YES OBSOLETE BY WW1/WW2, but the krag was americas first proper sniper rifle.
numerous iconic and well known ‘obscure’ weapons already in game. so outside ‘prototype’ or ‘fake’ weapons only obsolete weapons are left or weapons that were not really used like french who mainly used us weapons.
We already have numerous
Thompson, BARS, 1903’s, Garands, M1 Carbines, M3 grease Guns ect ect
Most of the guns you listed are like adding the M1911to the M1911A1 in game
The main concern, is not really about gear…its the MM. We still havent been given BR ±0 (should be priority) becuause too many MM queues (and if you put them in the same queue/matches, then it is moot making them seperate)
Thats the biggest reason dont want seperated trees. When The day comes we have BR ±0 and dont care about extra queues, by all means. Until then, subfaction tree is the most realistic
The main thing thats holding us back from building our decks as the factions we want…is the cosmetic system 
