Having three Bars in BR3 and not wanting to use Bren on your American soldiers is not a justification for putting it in BR2, and my god, even if it was nerfed, it would destroy the players of Germany and Japan in BR1 and BR2 there’s no way this could happen
I agree with all but the GLs. They’ve already been nerfed into the ground as far as damage goes. If they need to be nerfed again I’d say make them load properly with the ones that would require a blank to be loaded in first before firing. As far as the BAR goes, it would need to have the felt or visual recoil increased or something to go to br2.
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The Type 100 Early Model destroyed the American BR2 long ago.
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It’s only been a few weeks and it will probably go to BR2 or BR3, but I’m going to enjoy every day
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If they increase the reload speed, recoil, dispersion or add movement penalty it wouldn’t be any better than mg 13 or zb 26. Having 3 nearly identical guns in same br while 1 of them is superior to the others in everything is dumb. Alternatively the devs could add entirely new br 2 american mg but that would require unnecessary work when downtiering and nerfing 1 bar is easier.
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lets just try it just like the thompson
M1a1 thomspon in br 2 was a mistake and made no sense. It should be removed from br 2 and instead a new variant of m1a1 with 20 round mag should be added for br 2. 
I dont want m1918 bar to powercreep every other weapon in br 2 like the thomspn did so it should be nerfed to be more balanced before it gets downtiered.
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And also need to lower the Thompson 50 on BR4 and introduce the Thompson 100 on BR5.
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not really plus america’s BR2 MG TT is kinda lacking
Thompson 50 definitely needs to be br 4. The prohibition thompson has a foregrip and much superior stats so i think it is fine in br 5. As for the 100 round thompson we already have 100 round m1928a1 and 100 round m1921 for nkvd so i suggest allied tech tree gets m1928 with 100 rounds. Basically same weapon as m1928 usmc but with bigger capacity.
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Allied br 2 mgs perform well but lack variety. Both brens are nearly identical but statistically bren mk 1 is slightly better. Vickers berthier is very similar but has much better dispesion. Bar in br 2 would give allies something else other than another top fed bren like gun.
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If the ads speed, run speed, reload speed, accuracy and recoil were nerfed to be in line with all other br2 lmgs then I see no reason why we shouldn’t move 1 BAR out of br3.
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bruh
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was it the ammo? because i really want it to be proper GL AT preventing from becoming a spam against infantry
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Considering the BAR is a WW1 weapon and served in EVERY US campaign of WW2, and the US has zero MG’s at level two, the base BAR 1918 should be lowered to level two. It would not be anymore ridiculous then the Dev’s buffing the Japanese BR1 Type 100 to a ROF over 800 when maxed, or anymore ridiculous then the Soviet BR1 PPD-34 having a max ROF of over 900. IMOP the Dev’s should have given the Soviets the PPSH-2 for its BR1 SMG as it shoots a max of 600 RPM. With the BAR, they could even drop a level two BAR to 500 base and 575 maxed and I’d be fine with it, even though I don’t think it needs it to be dropped with the precedence the Dev’s have set. 
I would also reduce the horizontal recoil of the MG13 and add the Soviet RPK 1943 to the level two tech tree, along with raising it’s magazine from 15 to 25 rounds. I’d also love to see the Japanese BR2 Hotchkiss MG added to the Japanese TT.
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GL adjustments sound terrible.
Lower M1918 but also increases its recoil a bit.
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(Jap Main here) Honestly, with how easy the buffs have made Low BR, I suppose I wouldn’t mind seeing more of the BAR
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wait for japan BR adjustment before making these comments…
is it the splash damage or the too much ammo?
with this change we can have 2 defined class of GL, one for anti tank and other for anti personnel
The BAR 1918 did come with a rate of fire reducer mechanism, so theoretically the base BAR 1918 could have its ROF dropped all the way down to 350 which was the lowest bottom reduced speed. However, If it needed reduced to please the Japanese and German mains, then I would drop it so it matched the RPK, since they are fairly similar. The RPK only has a ROF of 500 maxed, but other then the small magazine of 15 rounds I love it. Even a BAR with a 500 ROF would be decent at BR2, however if the ROF is reduced then the recoil should be reduced as well.
As far as that goes, the FN1930 which is the German and Japanese BAR copy could get a level two version with a ROF de buff and drop one to level two. Although it is a BP weapon so I’m not sure how many people actually have it. I have four of the German ones but none of the Japanese ones. However, if the Dev’s would just cut the horizontal recoil of the MG13 that would make a world of difference.
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