ikr, people just cant understand how useful the slow auto is
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and how would it not prevent power creep? and you can’t use war thunder BR system because that’s already a mess in of itself
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currently there is no such thing as power creep if there’s only 1 usable tank in the level, 1st tank only can kill 1st tank at most so does 2nd, 3rd, 4th tank and that is normal because it’s balanced
like
“i cant kill lv. 99 player using my lv. 1 character”
“well, no shit sherlock”
and i swear i explained it to you why tiger and jumbo is equal some time ago
the m4 firefly was made by the brits tho, and the brits were on a different beach on d-day. im not even sure they made fireflys until later in the war
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no, just no. this is not how balance works
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Except a tier 1 tank can kill a t4 tank in this game with the only exceptions being the t-60 and Pz2 since they have smallest cannons hell I take out jumbos in the fucking panzer 3N and I would rather keep it like that, so yes power creep will be a very real thing if the devs listen to which side is crying the loudest
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elaborate
i’ve explained that many time using that using leopard vs BT-5 logic like how stuar can kill pz4h head-on while puma has to be unseen, far away, and at perfect (?) 90° angle to penetrate the sides
it is still possible but just because it’s possible for both side doesnt mean it’s balanced because the struggle has to be considered too
Yeah and that game you are referring to has a mess of balancing system, and if you want to get more technical the systems that those two have are completely different systems with Leo 1 having modern munitions and night vision, while in enlisted the jumbo ammo is solid shot that can be defeated by get this angling your armor so jumbo has good armor but terrible AT capabilities while pz4 has decent armor and has great AT capacity especially if the round enters the armor. And yeah thinking is a struggle for your average Germain
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balance is the parties invovled are similar enough that neither is obviously outmatched by the other, or their pros and cons make it that where one has drawbacks the other has benefits, like if a tank had worse armor than its opponent but better mobility, for example
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You must be playing a different game. Both these sentences are blatant hyperbole, and flat out false. “Great AT capabilities” ladies and gents. Great AT. Hahaha.
That is a big if. Lmao.
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i know but it’s a hell of a lot better than jumbo’s solid shot both in pentation and damage department
I do not care I need 2 shots to take out a PZ IV. It cannot do anything to me if I slightly move between reloads to make my gun immune to damage, or marginally angle my tank to make it my gun port immune to penetration. And, despite the silliness of people recommending flanking. With an iq marginally above room temperature, I have absolutely no issue preventing any such attempts.
Pumas die in one HE shot to the wheels.
PZ IIIs die in one AP shot to the turret ring, or two shots, if the shot does not go straight through the middle.
And I won’t be parking in places where I cannot clearly see my flanks. In fact, after the recent bomb nerfs, I always park completely in the open. I am immune to bombs as well. All I have to do is slightly move away from the bomb icons only if the bombs are right on top of me, just push the button to move forward or backwards. And i have 2 seconds to do so, and it is enough to avoid any damage. 100% guaranteed.
But 90% of the time, bombs do not fall close enough to deal any kind damage, anyway, and I do not need to worry about them.
The jumbo is my favorite bronze order printing machine. If I am not getting at least of 10 orders (5 each) every invasion game, I am doing something wrong. Usually it is 11-14 orders, though. Unlike before, I am no longer worried about good players in the opposite team. They cannot counter me with anything anymore since the bombs are completely useless against anyone willing to hit a key once they see the bomb icon (either prone for infantry or move forward/backward in a tank). For one second. That is all it takes to be immune to bombs.
then what’s the relevance between your understanding for “balance” and my statement i dont even know what you was referring to
was responding to this
holy fkc dude, you took metaphor literally as it is and saying Pz4H is better than jumbo, lmao brooo, i knew i explained this once before to you but your chicken memory cant just store aint it
can Pz4H penetrate jumbo frontally? no
can jumbo penetrate Pz4H frontally? yes
conclusion: Pz4H firepower is objectively stronger than jumbo but practically still cant kill jumbo frontally while jumbo firepower is weaker but practically still enough to penetrate jumbo therefore Practically Jumbo has stronger armor and stronger firepower thus jumbo is stronger which mean putting Pz4H and jumbo on same level is unbalanced
even the guy who use jumbo disagree with you
my goodness 
if you dont know what is that then i’ll tell you
that’s the argument allies use whenever someone stated that sturmpistole and Pz4H vs Jumbo isnt balanced, so they will throw some thing with that logic to them same like “just flank it”
i remember when a pasta guy (he’s reading this thread btw) stating that Sturmpistole is balanced because he killed a jumbo with it once (?) in very specific condition and situation while when using PIAT people dont have to be in that specific condition and situation they can just head-on with it and still can kill it thus it is unbalanced, the struggle arent equal. but he keep insisting both is equal because of that possibility “if both can do it then it’s balanced” thus i created Leopard vs BT-5 logic, both still can kill each other but doesnt mean it’s balanced because both has different struggle in killing each other
basically i used their own spell against them
ooo ok got it. i didnt know thats what u meant, esp since i started playing this game within the month
Yes but Barely since jumbo’s shell has only 92mm of penetration at point blank while ph4 has 80mm of frontal hull armor so it you failed to that then it’s not my damn fault
im not sure what you trying to say but
you just justified “jumbo is unbalanced”
good for you, you are enlightened