Hyde 1944's category should be change to assault rifle

It’s a carbine or AR. Not a smg.

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Didn’t they call it an assault rifle

Currently, it’s a smg

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Sometimes their classifications are all over the place. The Federov is AR while the Type Hei is a rifle despite having the same ammo. M2 Carbine is rifle while this is an AR despite using the same ammo

Sometimes I think we need an overhaul. I’m not saying automatic rifles should be moved, but it’s an idea

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They already introduced this carbine ‘considered the first US Assault rifle’.

It may have nothing with the problem of the same ammo.

Not the first and not the last time LAD is classified as SMG

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And Gorov LMG is a semi auto rifle
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Also nerf the dmg to 8.8. There’s no reason a .30 out of a 16 inch barrel does more damage than the same round of of a 17.75 inch barrel

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They need to change the category just so pilots and tank crews cant equip this weapon like German and Soviets tank crew/pilots cant use StG44 or AS-44 either…
Otherwise there isnt much to it.

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you have to consider both the width and length of the bullet the m1 carbine is the same width as the 1903 but close to a third the length. rifle cartridges are rifle because of length not girth.

.30 carbine is intermediate. 6.5 arisaka is not. Fedorov is not an assault rifle, hyde 44, .30 thompson, and M2 carbine are.

Shrimple as.

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I think they should correctly move the Federov to the rifle family

On a separate note I’ve been thinking maybe automatic rifles should be moved to a different class when we examine their historical role. The average infantrymen used a bolt or semi rifle. Yes most auto rifles were used in semi with full sparingly, but the average soldier wasn’t using auto rifles. They were more specialized weapons. Perhaps they should be given to assault

This would really shake up the entire meta of the game to its core

Technically, the Fedorov is a machine gun. Granted, its doctrine at the time of its introduction effectively made it a semi-auto rifle since full auto fire would damage the barrel, but hey.

Automatic rifles do have some historical overlap with machine guns, but at the same time how do we divide automatic rifles that happen to have a bipod vs a LMG. Where do we draw the line. Some auto rifles have bipods, others don’t.

So I think we’d categorize a MG as a belt/ box fed automatic weapon that is primarily intended to be used supported by a bipod for sustained fire. Of coarse in this game everyone runs around ADS MG 42s but in spirit that’s how they’re supposed to be used. (On a separate note I think MGs shouldn’t be able to be able to ADS, add more dynamic to gun types)

An automatic rifle is basically used like a typical infantry rifle with the added perk of automatic fire. They weren’t really used for sustained fire and auto was situational. And despite being operated like a rifle they were not issued to every soldier. Then why would we give the MG Automatic rifles if they’re supposed to provide sustained fire support

Theoretically automatic rifles could either go to MG or Assault. I lean towards Assault. MG is supposed to be sustained fire support, Assault is shock attack. So they either have a close range SMG, intermediary AR, or long range AR :smirk:

M2 is simply a modified M1. Nothing less, nothing more. Hence, it’s a carbine

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they did add a disclaimer saying it’s WIP

Auto carbine was simply the older name for assault rifle…
MKb anyone…?

Basically the classification goes like this:
Select fire intermediate: Assault rifle
Single fire intermediate: Carbine
Select fire pistol caliber: Submachine gun
Single fire pistol caliber: Pistol caliber carbine

its class will be changed to AR, the screenshots were still WIP

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Thanks!

No changes to M2A1 Carbine I hope.

So shouldn’t they move the M2 Carbine to Assault?