Subnations? yes yes yes
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If a modder need help or something, I canhelp you.
I’m French and I served into the Mountain troop (Maybe you know Narvik or La bataille des Alpes against the Italian).
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I would love to see Hungary and France added in some way to the game. I personally think the Hungarian tree should be included in an Italian/Hungarian/Romanian tree, just like in War Thunder, because the Italians and Hungarians could complement each other: the Italian weapons/vehicles would fill much of the lower ranks, while the Hungarian could fill the higher ranks, because the Kiraly is already in rank 5, the hungarians received some Tigers from the germans, as well as MG42s and Stg44s. The italians also sold some stuff to the hungarians, especially aircraft, they both used some german weapons, especially machineguns and rocket launchers, they both used the Solothurn AT rifles, etc…
For France, I think it is a little bit trickier (of course I might be biased because I am french, lol), but I would like to see an independent french tree, because, we used our own weapons at the beginning of the war, after the fall of France, the FFL were equipped with british weapons, during the landings in Europe, we were mostly equipped with american equipment, but a big part of our forces were still armed with our own equipment, especially our forces that landed in southern France, while some collaborationist forces were equipped with a mix of french and german weapons, and the french forces also used captured tanks in 1944/1945, like Tigers and Panthers. And we must not forget that some units fought in Indochina too, so we could see French vs Japanese on some maps.
But even with only french weapons, there is already more than enough stuff to make a complete tree, the problematic part would be with the vehicles.
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Exactly, instead of adding entire new factions, adding a separate TT branch with French stuff for Allies - or Italian stuff for Axis, would be a total no brainer.
Think about it, since we have maps that are BR based (should be more strict tho Stalingrad BR5 is laughable) we can easily have french troops in BR1 and BR2 with some special maps like Dunkirk for early Allies, while adding more eastern front maps to fit Hungary and Romania, while also adding the invasion of Italy.
Squad skins change with campaigns, this could ensure that US troops in early WW2 maps look more like British units or some get French uniforms,
just like Italians already get German uniforms when fighting in Berlin.
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The probability of map matching varies depending on the country used, such as the Italian army, and I think it would be good if using the Italian army would increase the chances of entering maps such as Sicily, Tunisia, and Stalingrad.
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just a on a late note, there are a few small sized pictures, if you want to look at the details of such picture, you need to right click on it and select open image in new tab.
You will see the picture in its full glory on the new tab.
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Some things i would like to add (links broken else i cannot post them)
Pistols
PA 1945 comes in A and S variant
https ://i.imgur.com/ZlwWlyQ.png
PA Le Français Type Armée pistol, used informally by many officers in 9mm and 7,65mm
https ://i.imgur.com/4dTH1Jy.png
PA Union
https ://i.imgur.com/WDlMcXm.png
SMG
Belgian-made French used Schmeisser and Erma
https ://i.imgur.com/H7fBzgo.png
MAS 1933 (like a 1935 but in 9mm)
https ://i.imgur.com/0ZMbxPE.png
Rifles
Ingame the Berthier should be a Berhtier M34 infantry variant (you used a Berthier M16 cavalry model (angled bolt lever)) )
Maybe add the Lebel M27
https ://i.imgur.com/IBQSebK.png
FA 1917N and FA 1918N
https ://i.imgur.com/ZhZrA7T.png
MAS 36 CR 39 (premium)
http ://armesfrancaises.free.fr/FR%20MAS%2036%20CR39-VD-WEB.JPG
LMG
Modified MAC31
https ://2img.net/h/oi53.tinypic.com/2ptsakj.jpg
Grenades
CF Grenade
https ://i.imgur.com/XdsPuNK.png
Smoke grenade mle 1916
https ://i.imgur.com/SOaf0cO.png
OF blast grenade
https ://i.imgur.com/rbWC9Kl.png
1918 anti-tank grenade
https ://i.imgur.com/JtSSECs.jpeg
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I attempted to look this one up, but didn’t find anything but based on that you have mentioned both S and A variant makes me think that you actually meant to say 1935 instead of 45.
Its there, its the PA 1935 S btw.
But sure we could add the PA 1935 A as well.
This one has its very own suggestion
I included one rifle for each BR from BR1 to BR3 to both Hungary and France and didn’t wish to break the symmetry, but Fusil Automatique Modèle 1917 could be added nevertheless, it would be a welcome addition to BR2 Allies.
It would be cool if each faction had AT grenades to unique to them, but DF seems too lazy to do it.
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This is probably the final update, I did not include the ARL 44 and the Tas 44M tanks because they were not finished during the course of the war, but now that the Soviets will get a post war jet fighter there is no reason not to include them.
ARL 44 (ACL-1)
Suggested BR and place:
BR3 - heavy tank, French subtree Tier III.
Before the end of the war, a wooden mock up was completed (Im looking at you Ho-Ri) but the first prototype of the ARL 44 was only completed in 1946, equipped with an ACL-1 turret and 75 mm SA 44 gun, a 60 mm sloped front plate.
The tank was deemed too weak and sent back to the drawing board to upgrade the tank with better armour and firepower, thus evolving into the “mass produced” ARL-44 years later.
Tas 44M (29/44M L/58)
Suggested BR and place:
BR4 - heavy tank, Hungarian subtree Tier IV.
In 1943 Hungary decided that the Turán series wont cut it anymore and reached out to Germany for more advanced tank designs, but Germany refused to share their designs thus Hungary designed their own vehicle instead, suited for their needs and industrial capacities.
Though its often called the Hungarian Panther, the Tas 44M is a radically different vehicle inspired by the Tiger I, the T-34 and the Panther equally rather than just a Panther copy.
The Tas 44M tanks were to be armed with a 80mm 29/44M L/58 bofors gun, modified from Hungarian produced bofors AA gun and 2x 34/40AM 8 mm MGs. Powered by 2 Turan engines and running on leaf spring suspension.
2 prototypes (an iron and a steel constructions) were in production when US bombing destroyed the project just before the first prototype could have been completed, Hungary had also lost interest in the project as Germany had shared its newest designs, thus the project lost its priority.
Tas 44M (43M L/43)
Suggested BR and place:
BR4 - premium/event tank
the 80mm 29/44M L/58 bofors gun could not be completed in time so the first prototype was armed with a 75mm 43M L/43 gun also used in the Turan III and Zrinyi I.
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First French post war jet fighter (SO 6020 derived from the SO 6000 the first french jet aircraft)
https ://www.airhistory.net/photos/0450121.jpg (link broken bc forum rules)
(exists in up to 6025, with multiple armaments options)
This one:
Copied from Wikipedia!
Work on the French jet aircraft initiative had begun in secret during the Second World War, and harnessed research retrieved from Nazi Germany. Almost immediately after the end of the conflict, the French government issued a requirement for a batch of five prototype jet aircraft to be developed by French industry. To avoid delaying the overall project, it was decided to use the German-designed Junkers Jumo 004-B2 engine after severe development issues were encountered with the indigenously-developed Rateau-Anxionnaz GTS-65 turbojet engine. The British Rolls-Royce Nene turbojet engine was also adopted for some of the prototypes.
On 11 November 1946, the first prototype performed its maiden flight, flown by test pilot Daniel Rastel.
Honestly, this one is too post war and adding it would be very controversial and unnecessary.
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Well you forgot very important plane for France its the Merlin P-40F-5
Its very special P-40 that is faster ,more stable and can carry same amount of bombs like the rest to be honest is a very unique P-40.
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While having France as a subfaction for the Allies is neat for representing the Free French and the reborn French army after liberation, it would be a problem for having pre-1941 campaigns like the Battle of France and Belgium
Of coarse adding the French to the game now is fine because the Allies timeline starts in 1942 when America joined the war so its ok having Americans and Brits fighting together, but then it prevents us from having said earlier campaigns.
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thousands of Americans fought as volunteers in the Canadian army and US also lend-leased both France and Britain so as long as American soldiers wear Canadian uniforms it would be plausible.
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People would be pretty happy to get an extended timeline imo
More historical maps is always good
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Interesting, but I just think Britain should be an independent faction. It’s the British Empire!
France is more closer to a true subfaction because it was literally dissolved and remnants continued the fight and were entirely equipped by the America and Britain
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Well the problem is the player base there is enough equipment for Commonwealth faction
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fusil nivert for br1 AT power
https:// titus2h.e-monsite. com/medias/images/fusil-nivert-2.jpg
( I read about a 13.2 prototype rifle but i cannot find anything about it and we have pics of the prototype 11mm mg for the air force)
Gnome et Rhone R5
https:// www.you tube. com/watch?v=U6ovuqaEgh8
Small list of SMG (not complete)
https:// i.imgur. com/3jOOcqU.png
MAC 31 in Infantry MG config
https:// i.imgur. com/n30iy84.png
Maybe add a specific buidlable section ?
Im thinking 20mm CA39 (AA) and 47 Mle 1937 (AT)/ or 75 Mle 1897 (AT) guns for buildable
Uniforms (mostly about helmets ngl)
(i will not get into the unit insigna plates on the helmet, we would need a dedicated thread for that)
(i did not cover the Vichy ones like the mle 41 models for Axis integration either, only Allies/standalone stuff)
French Mle 35/37 motorized units helmet used by infantry
https:// i.imgur. com/ O1YW4WN.png
French Mle 35 motorized unit helmet with webbing used by infantry
https:// i.imgur. com/ LY6jJBJ.png
French Mle 1936 Radio Helmet
https:// i.imgur. com/ 0MIbVfm.png
French Tank Operator helmet (based on the Mle 1933 bicycle model)
https:// i.imgur. com/ P9NRopk.png
Free French US helmet
https:// i.imgur. com/ wvanKAk.png
Free French Foreign Legion Helmet, good prem unit potential
https:// i.imgur. com/ qaW5c8H.png
Free French M1 helmet with welded Colonial Infantry ( = Marine Infantry, not colonial troops) anchor, could be a good prem unit helmet
https:// i.imgur. com/ VSaUK67.png
Multiple French Helmets used at the same time
https:// i.imgur. com/ P3oGcNF.png
(really need the Mle 35 Adrian with googles)
French Resistance Unit (FFI)
https:// i.imgur. com/ Bk2aZHy.png
Free French Western Army (FFO, aka the German resistance pockets cleanup guys)
https:// i.imgur. com/ 5MQSZnh.png
Free French Navy Commando 1940/41 and 1944 uniforms
https:// i.imgur. com/ 3mg9lXU.png
The Bling bling special (Brodie with extra pendant) (another good premium candidate)
https:// i.imgur. com/DyZ8ae4.png
(Shame i have to break links i have no trouble with that on the WT forum)
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Your trust level on Enlisted forum is probably low, keep posting and liking which will increase your trust.
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