Bi-pod needs fixing. If that has a guarantee it will work then lmg/mg is a perfectly fine weapon.
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Works okayish when standing still.
But Iād love the devs to perfect the bipod mechanic.
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They gotta give us more range of motion with the bipod, mostly up and down motion. Ever had a bipod up a hill and you canāt even point it down? wtf
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That, or worse on a second story window! You can barely aim down wich shouldnāt be. They could do something simple like, when your bipod is attached to a window, the lower you aim, the more your body is exposed (you are standing up to keep the stock on your shoulder) and the higher you aim, the less we can see you (perhaps the helmet top. But since enemies donāt really float, it shouldnāt happen often). It could be used to take some form of temporary cover, crouching a bit without dismounting the bipod.
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moving in a game about capturing a point in 40 seconds is a necessity. Range tests showed that even a 6-star MG42 has a scatter radius of about 3 meters at 10 meters if you move even slightly. Insanity.
āJust donāt moveā-okay whatever, especially when my point gets taken and I have to fight it off. Or better yet, when Iām on the attack.
50 rounds is too little to make up for the 6.6 seconds of reload time in which youāre sure to get killed if youāre lying down. As long as there are no normal bipods and big ribbons. i donāt understand why anyone would consider the MG42 a suppressor machine gun.
Iāve pretty much given up on playing with a machine gun, itās frustrating.
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Itās an LMG. Itās not intended to be fired on the move.
Take either an SMG or an automatic rifle for that.
LMGs are supposed to find a good place to set up, then suppress over a very long range. This isnāt CoD.
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Do you even play the game? I have a point that the enemies run to, if there is at least 1, he will capture it. I am forced to run to kill him. I canāt lie down, otherwise I ruin the game.
Machine guns donāt have 150-200 round ribbons so I can fire suppression rounds. 50 is not enough, then you have 6.6 seconds to reload, in which you always get killed.
Yes, machine guns are not for rush, but you have to attack in the game. They are just not suitable for the game in its current form. Look at BF5 There machine guns work just fine.
They have handy bipods and big ammo belts. Thatās not the case here.
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Thats why you should have mixed soldiers in your group where if you need to run to the point you take over an assaulter and/or rifleman or anyone else than slow moving LMG guy with mg42.
Basically you are cherry picking. No1 sane would take mg42 and assault a building with it
L2p i guess
Buddy, Iām in first place 90%+ of the time. I donāt have anywhere else to L2P. If no player on my team can kill even 50% of my kills, then Iām not the problem, donāt teach me.
I need to show battle results so people stop writing L2P if they donāt understand how to win games themselves?
The system of switching to other soldiers is awkward, when you switch, you are disoriented because they look in different directions and act dumb. While Iām shooting with an MG in my assault squad, the bots will just die from random bullets. What you say doesnāt work.
Weapons need to be more versatile. Right now the SMGs are the Best in everything. I can easily kill a squad with an SMG, why would I need a machine gun. Long range firefights I can easily avoid.
I have already written that there is a rotation of units and sometimes I have to play the machine gunners. If I could always take the right squad, the problem would be less. Waiting for 2 revivals in order to attack with SMG I can not when the point is captured right now.
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Its super easy to be top10-20% of leaderboard in this game actually due to the fact lobbies are full of bots and/or kiddies who play it because its free, so your argument is invalid mate,
You can use X and individual commands to position your troops in a place where they wont die.
Also this all still doesnt change the fact that you dont see a problem with using heavy mgs as a assault weapon, which is just not what they were intended for.
SMGs are obviously one of the best weapons in the game, but well placed mg can lockdown area much better than SMG.
Also in the game you normally have 2 assault groups and then two engineering groups so even with premium u dont have to use MGās at all, you can use semi auto rifles and smgs only if thats your pointā¦
Five bipod kills? I do 10-15 for every life. Thatās not impressive at all. My MP-35 would do the same thing. Note that after 5 kills you reload, so if the enemy had at least one normal player, you would be dead by now.
Why nerf machine guns if they are worse than SMGs? You yourself say that it is better to play with SMG. Many donāt have premium and forcing to take a squad that doesnāt fit the situation is wrong.
Donāt explain to me how X works, I know it. And no, itās not easy to be top 1 in the game if I constantly see people doing 3-4 times less kills than me. Theyāre the ones doing something wrong.
Iām not talking about making the MG a better assault weapon, Iām talking about not having an absurd 3.5 meter diameter spread when I shoot at 10 meters and go at the enemy. If it was about 30-50 meters in that situation, I would understand.
In addition, the latest patches increased the recoil of machine guns lying down without bipods. Explain how this relates to their scope of use? They were literally made worse for their intended purpose. Even with the perk on the recoil MG-42 flies into the sky after 3-4 bullets, even if youāre lying down, what nonsense. At the same time SMG have no recoil at all.
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Iām sure seeing you made a thread crying that you canāt hit anything
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you shoot from the bipod, killing five people per drum. Thatās a mediocre result. 41/5 = 8 rounds per man. L2P. And after a video like that, you say machine guns are good for killing large numbers of people.
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Then what are you whining about?
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About how if I were in your shoes with an Mp-35 instead of an MG, Iād kill exactly the same number of people, but not have the insane spread on motion and recoil without a bipod.
There is no point in using machine guns because now they have too many disadvantages with little pluses
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you wont nail 10 people from afar with SMG
also re your spread, i have absolutely no issue storming in with mg and hipfiring like crazy, if they are close they die even faster compared to SMGs
also:
āāAnd no, itās not easy to be top 1 in the game if I constantly see people doing 3-4 times less kills than me.āā
If you donāt see the error in logic here then you donāt deserve my attention sorry pal
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Okay, cybersports squads that before nerf machine guns were apparently doing 500 kills per game, because the machine guns have become about half or three times weaker.
I play the game every day and win all the time, but I see that I donāt want to use MGs because they have become significantly worse than SMGs.
If I, as a good player, donāt like lmg, then the average player is just useless with it.
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SMGs were nerfed significantly worse than LMGs for dispersion.
A braced SMG has worse dispersion now than an LMG youāre waving around like an idiot while moving.
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