Hey DF can we german players have this beast

Why P-59 when the P-80 actually flew over Italy during the last few months of the war, and is closer to the Meteor and 262 in terms of flight performance (Lets not mention the CAS options for now)

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Whatā€™s the difference between this and the others?

Panther F uses Schmallturm which IRL at distance made it hard to hit it since turret was small also it was lighter and cheaper to produce and it had 120 mm of armor which is 20 mm more than G variant but in game beside the extra armor it would be no different than normal panther side note gun mantlet is 100 mm

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It has a flat mantlet similar to the Tiger IIā€¦H I believe is the one with the flat face

Here. You can check Panther F by yourself.

https://wiki.warthunder.com/Panther_F

Thanks for the answers. Seems like a panther version of tiger 2 h but with less pen and armour.

Better turret and gun barrel removed the muzzle brake which mean overal increase protection on the turretā€¦ now the reverse speed, I wonder if still the same or notā€¦

I mean, Wrfr rockets and M8 rockets where also Air to Air missiles, soā€¦

M8s were primarily designed for Air to Ground. The Americans didnā€™t even mass produce an air to air rocket until after the war because they never had a need for them. German heavy bombers were few and far between where they were operating and the ones that they did encounter were a joke, while the Japanese heavy bombers werenā€™t particularly well armoured.

still I dont think it changes a thing, Wrfr rockets donā€™t even work against bomber formations in the game so doesnā€™t matter anyway, It would only matter if they had the 48 rockets lol, so obviously not going to happen

Rockets do work on the bombers, WFRs are just a bit harder to aim because of the drop. However, if the ROS-82 can kill bombers, the WFR most certainly can as well.

Boy I canā€™t wait for a jet that flies so fast that we can barely ground pound or move around the map due to endlessly needing to turn so you donā€™t go outside the borders of the small maps.

I dont think you are understanding me, Wrfr rockets are huge, land a hit with one of those in a bomber formation, and you will only kill the plane you hit, despite the huge explotion that should be big enough to kill at least 3 unless you hit the ones at the edge of the formation

No, those rockets should only kill one bomber. They work a bit like APHE, so it makes sense you can only kill 1 at a time.

Afaik those were never meant to score a direct hit, relying on timed fuzes for anti-air use instead.

If you hit a plane in Enlisted, congrats.

I did it, also did it in war thunder, thats why am I pointing the diference, even with time fuze, the explotion is so masive, that it can damage your plane if you where chasing

Jagdtiger would be awesome just like the Elefant

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