Gold order for vehicle with skin - what / why

T-50 For Moscow.

  1. It is skip of huge amount of grind (also pre-upgraded and with special camo)
  2. It is nice upgrade from BT-7 (which I absolutely loved to use)
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ā€œCommander of the troops occupying Poland before the third partition. Responsible for the slaughter of the civilian population [about 20k dead] during the capture of the Izmaił fortress and the Praga district of Warsaw.ā€
Sounds like a nice guy.

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Callsigns are not given from the outside perspective. They are given from the perspective of the country they fight for. Pretty sure the guys victory list counts for itself why they think it is a great general and they think it should be on a tank, wall, statue you name it.

Easy to look from this point of history back and tell people not from our time who to pick as their heroes.

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True.

Actually I’m suprised that he served under russian empire and is on the soviet tank. Commies didn’t like tsar and his homies as far as I know.

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During World War II, the Soviet Union revived the memory of many pre-1917 heroes in order to raise patriotism. Suvorov was the Tsarist military figure most often referred to by Joseph Stalin, who also adopted the rank of Generalissimo that Suvorov had previously held.

The Order of Suvorov was established by the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet on 29 July 1942 and is awarded to senior army personnel for exceptional leadership in combat operations against superior enemy forces.

This is from the article posted a bit higher up

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Oh, thanks. I didn’t know that this was the case.

Sorry but I’m to tired to read multiple A4 pages in english and learn something from it :stuck_out_tongue:

Same indeed, just read the whole thing a moment ago. Pretty impressive repetoire the guy has.

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As already mentioned, T-50, because the regular one appears so late in the campaign.

The same can be said for the Pz IV H. Also available super late but unlike the T-50, its predecessor (Pz IV J) sucks balls. More reason for me to get that one and skip the awful J.

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Interesting answers.

Do you think the other vehicles will be available for Gold (real money) ??? :wink:

Just take a look at the Gold Order weapons from the past events… they are!

Panther is my favourite so far. Panzer 4 H is also very good with it’s HE shells at normandy beaches.

TIzmail was a Turkish fort taken by storm - the garrison was 40,000 soldiers, of whioch 9000 weer captured…the Russians lost 1800 dead and 2500 wounded.

Massive casualties and slaughter were pretty normal in such circumstances in those days.

Compare to the storming of Bafajoz in 1812 by British forces under Wellington - ā€œonlyā€ ~1500 French casualties from the 5000 man garrison - once the British got into the town they withdrew to an inner fortification and subsequently surrendered.

The British lost about 4800 in the attack, and the soldiers went on a rampage the next day killing and looting, including killing some of their officers who tried to restrain them - fortunately there were few civilians left in the town at the time, but maybe 20-30% of the 1000 or so estimated remaining were killed or wounded by the British soldiers -

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Capture of Praga - Suvarov ordered surrender be accepted, women and children to be spared despite the storming of the suburb - unfortunately for the civilians the Polish defenders had been surprised by the assault and dispersed into and fought from houses - in such circumstances the troops quickly forgot their orders.

But also many of the dead drowned fleeing across the Vistula -

And Suvarov’s consistent releasing of prisoners annoyed some Russians and was remarked on at hte time!

There’s plenty of bad blood there too of course - over 2000 Russian soldiers had been killed in hte Warsaw uprising earlier in the year, by forces that included armed civilians - which cobegs comparison with German attitudes to Francs-tireurs in 1871 and 1914, and even what they thought of the British home guard in 1940…

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I mean, I know that he didn’t do that for fun but still I have mixed feelings about this.

About what?

For his time he was an enlightened commander - better than a million other popular figures from times gone by celebrated by all cultures and societies around the world - none of them are lilly whte - dunno what you are expecting.

If somebody massacred my homies I can have mixed feelings about him, can’t I.
I know that he wasn’t any different than other guys but still. It’s subjective so if you don’t understand, don’t try because you won’t understand.

It’s still not easy for me to decide.

Berlin with its mostly narrow streets is a horror story for a tank (genuine atmosphere though).

Normandy looks so pretty, it’s summer, the commander can open the hatch, shoot from distance hidden behind bushes and trees.

If they will make them purchasable I guess I will just get both. Anything on that topic?
There are not that many people who already got a vehicle from the order I guess.

Got the Panther - nevermind!

There was no bad choice either way, as long as you chose one YOU think looks nice. Also, If DarkFlow is consistent, I suspect the vehicles only available for gold orders this battle pass will become available (for gold) next BP season like the ā€œgoldā€ weapons from the prior season are now available for purchase now.

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So you could have said as much instead of telling us all about your angst with no context.