agree
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PPD-37
The PPD-37 has a lower rate of fire than the PPD-34. But it has the ability to attach a bayonet and fold the magazine. (It would also be cool to give all weapons with folding anything badass first deploy animations 
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Give it it’s bayonet along with it’s 700 base ROF buff the Type 100 got. It’s got to be brought up to Gaijin’s current level one smg parameters, and bring along the M50 while were at it. 
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hmm, this thing shoots 9x25 Mauser Export. If we give it the same stats as the Kiraly, then . . .
Especially if we are talking about Kiraly during the Stalingrad campaign.
Except MP34 doesn’t fire this fast? There are plenty of videos of MP34, at best they fire at ~500 RPM.
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many weapons are artificially tweaked.
for example, mp40s, sten guns and others fire faster than they normally do.
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Thank you, I’ve posted something like this before, there should be bayonets on weapons with bayonet fix, they maybe useless, but should let players decide to install or not install it, instead of just ignoring these beautiful melee weapons.
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In BFV the main weapon I use for both Japan and Germany is the MP 34 with an Bayonet. It’s very satisfying to successfully kill someone with it. I’m all for it.
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This is Enlisted, does that matter? 
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it does, Type 100 got 700 RPM because it has reports of this being a thing
Ahhh, well, the US M50 smg was also known to sport a 30 round magazine and shoot between 750 and 850 rpm as well, so I guess we will be seeing it upgraded to 850 very soon 
. As to Enlisted, the dev’s have never cared if something was accurate.
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…Reising 30-round magazines are aftermarket and post war though…
I can’t argue with rate of fire, but what kind of logic is this? Type 100 rate of fire boost is based on evidence, how does it suddenly equal to Enlisted being intentionally inaccurate?
Evidence? Here ya go. 
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alright, I see, no point in arguing then if you can’t even be bothered to read the post i linked
The point is, the MOST COMMONLY used should be used, not the max, thus the reason neither were made in the game to shoot 700 plus, especially at BR1. Both should be shooting between 450 and 600 at BR 1. The Type 100 did not get he ROF increase to 800 until 1944, which should make that a BR2 or BR3 smg.
DF opened pandora’s box by adding experimental weapons and even weapons that were never used in the war, so adding a 30 round magazine might not be WW2 correct, however that has never seemed to matter to Gaijin. Two examples of guns that were never used in WW2 that are currently in the game are the Winchester 1866 and 1877. Neither saw action in WW2, yet for some reason found their way into the game. So, with the Dev’s historical accuracy doesn’t matter.
700 is not an experimental number though? Type 100 should have been uptiered when its rate of fire was increased, but it doesn’t mean that it should have 450 RPM because of English Wikipedia numbers
if anything, devs should have been researching the material more thoroughly when adding shit and not just rely on Wikipedia, but we’vee got what we’ve got
The M50 numbers are not experimental either, nor was the 30 round magazine. For BR1, neither should shoot over 600 rpm, "NEITHER:, and the Soviets should not have the PPD-34 shooting over 900 in BR1.
However, if they are going to buff one level one smg that is NOT experimental, then they should buff the other level one smg, which is NOT experimental either. Right?
The 30 round magazine also was not experimental, however, was a later addon, however the Dev’s have never cared if a weapon was necessarily used in WW2, as my example of the two Winchesters pointed out, which means they wouldn’t necessarily care if a magazine was period accurate.
Both to be honest for level one should be shooting the same ROF as numbers show that both shot anywhere between 450 and 850, so, if one is going to be overly buffed, then the other needs to for balance.
450 is correct for Type 100 only in the Western books though and nothing suggests that it would be the case in contemporary Japanese documents? Unlike the 500/550 number for Reising which is mentioned on the official level in manuals and other related documentation in spite of the evidence that it’s not accurate at all
PPDs do fire at fairly high rate of fire though? Most of rate of fire numbers (with some exceptions like STG-44) in Enlisted are taken as is from available sources (most of which would be Wikipedia, but that’s another problem entirely), Type 100/40 was just an example that was corrected after like 2 or 3 years, Reising could have become another one if devs were releasing updates fast enough and someone made an actual suggestion about it.
Both of Winchesters are also pre-WW2 and not post-war and technically fit (and who cares about practically when devs themselves said that they add shit based on the year when it was introduced and not whether it was actually used, case in point: RPD or AS-44 in Berlin campaign or M2 Carbine on any of the available in the game map), while a 30-round Reising magazine is something that is known to not be standard issue nor something that was experimented with during the war to begin with.