Give the FNAB the correct rate of fire of 800 RPM

So an smg with only 800rpm should be even less of a problem at BR 2 then.

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A magazine that blocks half your screen, side mounted sights, and only 25 rounds sure is a counter to what is essentially an 800 RPM MP 40 with slightly worse dispersion. It isn’t a terrible gun, but many people don’t like using it and isn’t a viable counter to the PPS 43 or uragan.

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That gun is basically a ppd-34 with a top loading mag.
Its top mounted mag blinds you
High recoil
High dispersion
Small magazine capacity with slow reload

You are better off using the obrez.
But that is still weaker than Pps-42 and is fully inferior to Urugan smg.

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It’s not countering anything, half of your screen looks like this


It also has unplayable dispersion and recoil bouncing all over the screen while PPS-42 are ultra stable, PPS-43 and new Urugan are also much more stable. It also has only pitiful 25 rounds vs 35. FNAB-43 need to receive firerate buff along with M38/42 (550 rof + 430m/s muzzle velocity as they were real stats of the weapon)

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That way M38/42 could become similar to PPS-42 (just buff M38/42 bad vertical recoil and dispersion a little)
And Fnab-43 could become similar to PPS-43

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M1918 recoil after shooting 25 rounds

PPS-42 recoil after shooting 25 rounds

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The main issue is that slow firing SMGs have the same dispersion as fast firing SMGs - effectively making the fast shooting ones equally accurate at range - just with more dps
MP40 should have much better accuracy then PPS43 - or instead even better… PPS43 actually had the same rate of fire as MP40, so where is the HA argument simply nerfing the gun instead?

I still hold the devs accountable to what they did to G43 kurz because of HA

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They only care about HA when it comes to Germany so they could nerf them and become even better punching bags for Soviets/Americans. Fedorov would not exist as a BR5 weapon as they were depleted by Winter war plus it had rof of 350-400 and should be a Machine gun at BR2 for them not an imaginary AR, AS-44 was experimental AR so it shouldn’t be anything more than a gold order weapon or a premium/event squad as only 5 of them ever existed.

They killed G43 Kurz and left us with only absolutely worthless Breda PG (CR) that can’t hit anything with burst or even semi, Carcano is actually a much better weapon and even more accurate than FG42 II despite it being at BR4. Weapon stats are all over the place. M38/42 has too slow of rof/muzzle velocity, FG42 should shoot faster than FG42 II, FNAB-43 should fire much faster, MG42 got nerfed rof (honestly i’m glad this time). Semoverte still doesn’t have it’s well known and terrifying to the American/British Heat rounds.
Also what’s with M2 Stinger and it’s 200 rounds in a magazine that could held only 100 rounds. HA? more like :snail: “accuracy”

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I think that historical accuracy should be more a priority than game balance to be honest, particularly damage by caliber and fire rate. But I think that full auto weapons can have different damage compared to semi auto or bolt action, but they should all have the same damage per caliber and category of weapons. The devs can still play with the dispersion and damage reduction over distance for some weapons in my opinion. For example, the Bren was known to be very accurate, so it could be a weapon with way less dispersion than other LMGs.

For example, the Beretta 1918 in 9mm Glisenti should be a self-loading carbine with way less dispersion and recoil than the M1 carbine in 30. carbine, so the Beretta should be pretty much a laser-beam in terms of dispersion, but with low damage over distance.

Right now, the Beretta is not a very good SMG in my opinion.

I find this very dubious. You don’t want to say that those who assembled this submachine gun didn’t shoot from it and didn’t know about its rate of fire? In addition, the article directly states that ammunition could have affected this. I will also add that weapon wear also affects the increase in rate of fire.

Well PPS43 had a rate of fire comparable to MP40, but you can find fast shooting and slow shooting PPS when looking for it on youtube - soviet soldiers were used to PPSH so some adjusted the recoil spring, that’s at least the story how I understood it.

The devs might as well make PPS43 have PPS42 current rate of fire since apparently people here seem to prefer it anyways - while making PPS42 have MP40 like rate of fire for HA reason.

And if you then still want faster rate of fire, you can choose the new SMG, which hopefully has bad accuracy.

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I might not be against it, but it doesn’t seem like the developers have the time and resources to make such changes.

Nah, if they can add a new SMG - changing gun stats should be quite easy.

Whats hard is predicting what else might change because of such change and how the meta will shift.

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They’re literally changing stats of quite few weapons this update.

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Judging by the latest news, I wouldn’t be so sure. The patch is out.

Ofc it was not changed. While Soviets and Americans got massive buff.

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Germany BR2 is now officially dead. 2020-2025 :coffin: :headstone: :de:

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This makes me so happy

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But never for Germany