Gimp the panzer III N in some way

[NishizumiMIo]

@warfare_master

All the russian 45mm are sub-par. The russian 76mm L-10 can only kill it when you hit the exposed turret

45 mm can pen in front turret and mg gun in the hull.

@warfare_master

And both of those weapons in the grant are ass. 37 is weak and the 75 is in the vonureable hull, which means it can be rendered useless with one HEAT

So ? wanna an m3 with 150 mm armor ? it’s enlisted who shoot accuratly first win like WT
Pz 3 N got OS by lee and T-28 while if you use HEAT with 3 N you rarely OS them

M3 LEE/GRANT are way underated thoses are high beast who need a different approach than using other
The 37 mm is for light vehicles not rare to find Pz II and it’s even better when fighting japan cheese tank at any br and you can troll faking you’ve shot with the main gun
the 75 mm is for serious measure
this tank is a multi tool box

M3 lee / grant <3

[Darenius1]

@Winter_Storm

…they have the same armor because the only difference between the 2 (assume you aren’t using the stalingrad one) is the N has the 75 for infantry support and the M has the long 50 for anti tank

That is not even true…
The big diffrence is that the 3M has 25mm additional armor infront of the turret which protects the biggest weakspot of all german tanks until the panther.

[Darenius1]

@warfare_master

The russian 76mm L-10 can only kill it when you hit the exposed turret

Is that supposed to be hard to do?

@warfare_master

Crusader ( Just like the russians) cannot penetrate the frontal armor and can only chip away at whoever decides to get into the turret

The front armor is only about 80mm thick but the crusader has 100mm of pen.
So I do smell bullshit.

@warfare_master

And both of those weapons in the grant are ass. 37 is weak and the 75 is in the vonureable hull, which means it can be rendered useless with one HEAT shot to anywhere that resembles the front or the running gear

Doesnt the same apply to the 3N? just shoot out the gunner in the barely protected turret and it cant shoot back?
But in the grant you still have a 37mm to defend yourself unlike the 3N.

The HEAT of the 3N isnt even that crazy as it is one of the weaker penetrating shells in its BR and HEAT post pen is still not as good as normal APHE but only a slightly buffed version of AP damage.

If you really want suffer then go ahead and try to kill a matilda or an A.C.I with only the HEAT.
Both of them are BR 2 but can barely be meaningfully penned by HEAT.

[FLAG03]

@Darenius1

The front armor is only about 80mm thick but the crusader has 100mm of pen.
So I do smell bullshit.

I think you’re not talking about the Crusaders but the Tigers

[Darenius1]

@FLAG03

you’re not talking about the Crusaders but the Tigers

No? In what world would that even make sence? Tiger does not have 80mm front armor nor does it have only 100mm of pen…
Well actually the 3N only has 75mm of hull armor so it was not entirely accurate of me to say 80mm in my post but that is not the point here.

[warfare_master]

After rereading through all of these perspective-changing comments I must conclude that I have been wrong about my stance this whole time. Even though these vehicles of BR II (pzIIIn, M3 medium, T28e) may be very diffrent or even unequal from each other they seem to fill their roles in their respective BRs accordingly, and any percived issues of overshadowing vehicles are an unfortunate result of the merge.

With all that being said I’m sorry for my previous rudeness and I have to thank you for shining me light on “the other side of the medal”.