ahahahahahahah you dont know comrad Stalin fantasy. He made it basic tank before it was even out of prototype (A-32, not even A-34 or T-34). You think that anyone would take it back?? Well, to be fair marshal Grigorij Iwanowicz Kulik tried to sent it to hell but Stalins word was finall.
KV and IS series had diffrent problems and what is more important, different role, but giving them as an example is also not the best, because they were not very successful either.
who would knew that overgrown parts of bt7 wont work exacly as they should
no (Sloped shape isnt game changer, was used in many tanks before btw if sb told you that t34 was so advanced couse it had sharp angles. Armor performance is much more affected by metallurgical factors), no and no. Not in any stage of war. Never achieved. 3 years were needed to make it evenslightly usefull. Mobilty and reliability are opposite to what this maschine was. On paper, yes it was f cav tank. In reality it just couldnt drive.
Nobody alse said so much lies about their product. Its matter of scale. And effects are worse. Not only somebody bought bad tanks but also every single home made historian untill now thought that T-34 was best tank of the war. Thats truly horrible xd
Its like you would said that shermans and panthers (panther was actually the worst of the worst tank of the war couse nazis hadnt time to fix it a bit as soviets could with t34) were best tanks of the war. As well preposterous.
Tests were made by soviets and by yanks. T-34-85 sucked in every way when compared to M4A2.
conclusion: 42 000 lost T-34 wasnt an accident. And yes, soviets battle plans were retarded (of corse not as much as human waves as âEnemy at the gatesâ want us to think) but other types of tanks werent lost in such quantities and had better performance. T-34 was just technological dead end from the start (literally from decison of useing Christie suspension), that was hard to improve. Poor quality of production didnt help. All of it made this tank shit that it is. Still better than panther if it would make you happy;]
And it wasnt case of legendary âquantity over qualityâ couse it cost similar price as sherman btw.
And man responsible for logistics would kill you for this proverb anyways.
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The author of the post should read a bit about firearms. And above all, what is the theoretical rate of fire and the practical rate of fire and how do they differ.
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The best Soviet tank for sure.
Retard soviet (corgi) mains, vs axis mainsâŠ
Forum. Forum never changesâŠ
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3:1 ??? where did you even get that from? Sometimes I wonder when I read about the ratio of losses on the eastern front. I think you guys are clearly not aware that they fought along with the Reich on the Eastern Front: Italy, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Spanish volunteers, various traitors, etc. and also that the Reich was very fond of exterminating Soviet prisoners of war (since the Slavs were considered Untermensch, of course, not as much as the Jews, but according to the ideology of Nazism, they went very close to the animals). As far as I know, the number of prisoners of the Axis and the USSR on the eastern front following the results of the war is approximately the same, although there are more councils, but there is one bad luck: less than 50% of Soviet prisoners of war survived, and German 85-90%
in total we have: irrevocable in battles, if we take into account not only the Wehrmacht but also the Axis forces on the eastern front, they are the same, but so many prisoners of war in concentration camps were killed that they pulled out as much as a ratio of 1 to 1.3 deaths.
But you mentioned exactly 44-45 years and the ratio of 1 to 3 in favor of the Germans.
Operation âBagrationâ (1944) (liberation of Belarus) losses 2-2.5 to 1 in favor of the Soviets.
Warsaw-Poznan offensive operation
the Soviets lost 17 thousand, the axis did not even count their own (by the way, the ubiquitous situation in 45.
âKönigsberg operationâ 45. The operation to storm the city of the fortress. 11.3 to 1 in favor of red army
âBucharest-Arad operationâ The operation to liberate Romania is no less than 11.7 to 1. As a result, the whole of Romania is under the control of the Soviets. one of those moments where the axis didnât count the men or the casualties. Only from Soviet data is it known that the enemy lost at least 100 thousand
âVistula-Oder operationâ 45. An operation during which eastern Poland was liberated and a bridgehead on the Oder River was captured. By the way, in terms of the number of troops involved from both sides, this operation is approximately equal to Kursk. The ratio of losses to those killed is again 11 to 1, namely 44 thousand Soviet losses against 479 thousand German ones, this is without taking into account 150 thousand prisoners of war. This is one that quickly came to mind.
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Since this topic Just turned in a Mess of Personal Insults it will be closed
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