FG42 - Needs limiting or reworking

I play axis side… I like how you assumed it was just because I was allied and therefore against it.

But I still think that the FG42 gives a rifle squad the potential to be too powerful, as Tcat said about the M2 I have no experience of that weapon or seeing it so couldn’t comment.

But even in Moscow, the MG34 in a squad is enough to upset the balance as the Soviets don’t have anything to match.
Earlier I had 68 kills and held the first cap on monetary because the Soviets and their Madsen can’t match.
But that’s a different point.

More testing will tell, but still, the FG42 will need some form of cap once it becomes more common.

Germans also don’t have a match for PPD 38. And in the west no match for Jumbo.

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The Soviets also have superb 45mm tank guns, whereas the Germans are stuck with the anaemic 37mm, and the most common Panzer III variants conspicuous by their absence.

After yesterday’s update, I’m really surprised to find that my IV H is no longer able to survive from m3 Stuart. Before that update, m3 can hardly do any damage to IV H but today I was killed by m3 with one shot for once(from the front).

Yeah but the 37mm guns only have to get through 15-30mm flat armour so the yare plenty good enough… or would be if tank combat made sense - you can hit the flat sides of a Pz2 with 4-5-6 45mm AP shots and do no effective damage from 50m…

Penetration isn’t the issue, it’s the post-pen effects. The 45mm has a much better APHE shell, which easily knocks out 2-3 crew in one fell swoop. The 37mm rarely does that, and requires the player to be a much better shot than the enemy.

I can assure you that penetration is totally an issue when it isn’t happening.

also there is little effect on components even if you do penetrate, and the 45mm mostly only kills 1 person at a time.

Then your game is broken mate. I wreck face with 45mm, regularly taking out Panzers with two shots at worst. :slightly_smiling_face:

I still have to say. I kill more people often and more frequent with my K98ks then any FG on average. I’d say as what people make it out to be, that just because you can fill a squad with them. It doesn’t really make it that good. Sure it got a decent hit power but still it doesn’t stand up against most LMG’s in US arsenal like the BAR or the M2C or the Tompson, all those for the most will always outmatch any FG in any fight in general. And for the most german weapons are not that good. MG42 and MG34 is are the most solid weapons you have in their arsenal and i’d go as so far to say that most weapons either are just scrapyard material or mediocre. Don’t get me wrong the G43 is good. But far from just something you can just pick up. The Garand outmatches it in any senario pretty much when it comes to hitpower and yeah i have to say their is a rare case senario where US players loose to US lowleveled players because either the guns are simply being undermined or just simply a meatgrinder for hightier players. For Germany it’s not the same case really, since most weapons at even high tier has a lot of recoil and a very oddish place in the roster, and are a very odd senario where they fit in, STG might just be the only acception on which it can work on most senarios.

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I forgot this thread even existed

9 months later
the fg42 nerfed or is crap now
i dont see how many people cry about being op.

i unlocked the engineer II squad for axis in normandy.
awful sights,
cannot replace the gewehr 43.
cant go CQC as most players said
and in long ranges i dont see shit while aiming.

Do people still see a 20/20 gun with high ROF as an LMG ? LOL

and to all of that add dispersion. so you reduce accuracy

i have seen it on fg42 II :disappointed_relieved:
bullets flying from left or right of the T cross.
fg42 II is not that bad cause the scope makes your life easier.

but fg42
I dont know how to use it

and the aesthethic of the sound it makes
you know you go from a gun that makes BOOM BOOM :grin:
to a gun that barely sounds like is being fired

I ve come from heroes and generals.
I love being a paratrooper, land on a roof and trying to snipe with the fg42,
it was also nerfed because allies cries

I hope this game doesnt end like H&G with all german weapons nerfed.

Apparently amongst the most active forum warriors, the germans are supposed to have better “mid” range smg’s.
Having M2 as smg would probably fk up that magical “balance” quite badly, considering that allies are also most likely going to get tommy with 50/100 drum.

You can waste quite alot of 75mm hits to T-60 as well without damage so it isnt exclusively a german issues.
Not to even mention T-50.

Ironic. As literally 1/3 of german SMG’s are usable, the other half is more or less cannon fodder. FG was the only redemption germany would have had, but it’s not. That’s literally why i say this whole heartedly. If the FG get’s nerfed. The only thing that’s decent for germany is going away, and basically all the good weapons will belong mainly to USA. As for the most they already do. Since the BAR is literally just a FG with faster reload speed better recoil control and better overall damage per bullet output. All US SMG’s are without a doubt just better. And snipers / semi’s are all better. So literally no, no less nothing is even remotely decent for germany for either starter players or end game player but so said FG and maybe the STG. But as fast as people start getting their hands on the STG i bet there’s just gonna be a massive nerf to that too. So. Honestly FG is just a bad gun already. Why make it even worse then what it is. I’d for certain never play the FG ever again. I’d never even play SMG’s again. So i guess im forced running G43’s or Bolts then? whilst USA has M2C’s with about 1k rpm? hm… ok.

This is where you lost any chance of being considered unbiased.

And I say it as an FG user in Normandy.

If you think FGs are bad guns, what would be good for you? G3A3? FAL? Freakin’ G36?

I literally stated what i though of US weapons. Your just spewing stuff right out of places that they are not suppose to come.

I stated all facts about the gun and if you can’t make a valuable point on why the gun would somehow be “better” then 99% of US weapons overall automatics, I can assure you there’s little to no reason why you’d say that the FG is overpowered. If you’ve ever seen a P47 drop a 500lbs bomb every 2 minutes. Then you really don’t have a real reason to complain. Because in normady you have some tosser who’s just spamming 500 lbs bombs literally half the match thinking this is warthunder and just keep spamming in on the point. And since it for whatever reason can hit people behind walls and through buildings, you can’t even do anything about it. Since AA would matter since ones one die 3 more after will spawn. If anything bombs and attacker aircraft needs an nerf. Not a singular german weapon that somehow US players can’t beat because they don’t know how to properly aim their BARs or M2Cs. Literally both outperform both the FG and the STG when it comes to senarios.

Not going to waste words on deaf ears. When you’re done comparing apples to oranges, take a minute to think, and maybe you’ll realize why calling the FG a bad gun is even dumber than calling it invincibly OP