After numerous requests to reduce Fedorov rifle’s vertical recoil and add an automatic fire mode, developers decided to do the opposite. They decreased horizontal recoil while further increasing vertical recoil, and even reduced its damage as a bonus. Automatic fire was not added. As a result, the Fedorov is now so bad that it’s impossible to play with it even with maxed-out recoil perks. And this comes amidst the return of Kurz, which shoots like a laser cannon. It’s really sad to see such imbalance. Even the old Breda PG from previous battle passes plays much better.
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This is not a suggestion, this is a rant.
Please move this trash to mess room.
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Damage was not changed.
While also adding 60% recoil control, so the actual recoil on the weapon is 41/4.
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60% recoil reduction bonus plus the maximum recoil perk – the result is on the screenshot. Honestly, it doesn’t look anything like 41/4. The gun shakes terribly. The only thing is, it predictably shakes to the right side. Something tells me there’s no 60% bonus in the files at all.
I do have to say, having tried it, its quite inaccurate, even on -30/-30 recoil control troopers.
Deff inaccurate on long range on burst, where AVT/AVS can put reasonably tight groups.
Dare I say its a BR4 rifle as it stands
I get its a WW1 era proto, so its fine as is, but its no 5 star weapon.
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@Euthymia07 if you can take a look at the files, I used -30% horizontal recoil reduction and even on crouch etc the gun definitely kicks to the left MUCH more than any other rifle that has XX/>10 in its stats.
Something might actually be off, the weapon feels like 41/14-20 for whatever reason.
This is why I said it should be full-auto from the start, only blatant mains would have complained about it and a 25 round FG42 style weapon would have been a huge fire boost for Soviets on BR5.
But bringing it down to BR4 will only spark more shit shows with people asking for G43kurz back and demanding the down tier of Breda PG (CR) as well.
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I dont care either way; even as a Sov main. I dare say its recoil is mid as it stands, you can leave it be right now as a somewhat forgettable rifle, or do some changes (since some historian mains are complaining about the burst setting)
Currently im concerned about its potentially bugged recoil, no way thats 41/4 recoil in any book.
PS as a personal peve the 25/25 rd ammo capacity is worst in game? Gets 100rds with an ammo pack. Would it hurt DF to upsize ammo count for once? Like the LAD with its 150/150 where every other SMG gets 400rds on top tier ammo pack - its just weird, esp since LAD was supposed to be a squad support weapon.
WHAT THE HELLL???
I hope that this is a rant…
REDUCED DAMAGE??? You are blind bro if we look into the spreadsheets we SEE that this rifle have 14.0 base dmg while at 100 meters is just 13.0 and now compare it to weapons like the FG-42 which is 14.0 is decreased to 11.0 meaning that it have adventages over the distances
Oh wait this havent ended yet tecnically Federovs must be considered MGs because the damage of that gun is way higher than every single MG on this Game since i noticed that mgs have less dmg reduction on long Ranges that not Even SF and semiaout rifles have
And You want a buff???
Nah get better instead
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The gun feels very good in semi auto on all ranges and the burst mode is not really necessary most of the time with its high damage, but when CQC fights start that burst mode shreds like crazy.
The damage output is way too much for BR 4 its most certainly a BR 5 weapon, and a fun one at that.
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Fedorov rifle is not bad at all, its just “weaker” than G43kurz which is why many Soviet mains are upset because they wanted an OP gun.
Respect to the exception, ofcourse.
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I used the Kurz a lot with its burst mode until they screwed something up with it and it would constantly return ammo to the mag, I just ditched it for FGs.
Now its one of the strongest ARs in the game and its not even locked to assaulters, it comes in real handy for event squads that got extra AT gunners. Kurz is still in the top 5 best weapons for me.
Fedorov rifle is more like the Breda PG CR, both dont compare to the past or present kurz.
As I was saying
Something’s off here with the recoil, its consistently wider than similar rifles when it should be narrower, aka IRL ~41/10-15
Just my two cents worth on the gun. It’s nice, and the burst mode would have been a great idea, however, unless you aim an the enemies balls, only the first round is going to impact the soldier as the rest will sail right over his head. The only mode this gun is currently good in is single shot mode. I would hope DF will correct this, but if not, it will most likely sit in my imaginary Enlisted gun safe.
It’s as bad as Breda PG (CR) you can’t hit anything after first 2 shots.
The Fedorov rifle is an ideal and a role model. All automatic rifles should be made as crap as the Fedorov rifle. Then there will be balance in BR5.
Add full auto and remove burst already, because I am bored and I have nothing else to play.
When can I reinstall the game?
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I seen a lot of discussion about Fedorov rifle, with helper team we’ll collect some needed topics and will sent it to devs
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If only you were so keen to take feedback of German players wanting to downtier some of their weapons or correct Breda PG (CR) awful accuracy during burst…
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Not much better both are very bad and i see no point in using Breda PG or Fedorov Rifle in a current state.
Fedorov
Breda PG (CR)
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