End of World War II celebration

Even at the victory day of mankind, there are people who want to boast the contribution of one nation over the others. What a shame and disrespect to the people around the globe.

it’s a shame and disrespect that this happened, and some Cc want to rewrite and overturn it somehow, isn’t it?) Some guys dropped a 16 megatonnes on a peaceful city, while other guys make a brilliant military operation that saved many lives. Guess who’s the bad guy. Time’s up, leave your answer in the comments)))

SU obviously ? Nothing is comparable to atrocities of SU.

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Hahahaha

The meaningless attack on pearl harbor ensured their surrender from that day… it goes to show what it took for them to give up.

They were blind followers of their emperor… pathetic beings who’s only purpose was to serve… go as far as taking their own life in suicide attacks to ensure their mission was complete.

No quarter, sympathy or any such should be given.

It’s sounds like you have kinda of anti-soviet bias.
Yeah chinese was real and strongest one enemy for Japan - everybody knews it.
Whole point not about it.
British just as with germans - constatly retreated until somebody helped them.

Japanese ain’t so dumb to really believe in bullshiting.
And no, maybe 1 to 1, this atomic bomb was stronger, but how I know americans had at best 3 of them at this time.
And again, what’s the difference between destroying by firebombing or by atomic bombs? Like really? Same outcome in the end.

And again, okay, they believed in one million of atomic bombs. So what’s made them to not belive that’s americans could continue default firebombing to the end of their poor islands?
It’s the same strong spirit in that though? Dying from bomb(especially what difference in their honour in dying from fire bomb or atomic one?) or from bullet, whatever reason? Anyway dumb stubborn dying. Same honour.

Ah, it’s clearly anti-soviet bias.
Like it’s not even make sense to have discussion with man with a such strange approach to kinda serious topic after all.

Their common folks was ready to die.
Their hq wasn’t.
That’s simple.
Yeah, maybe in bunkers is harder to hide from atomic bomb. Only here I see some sense in history about ā€œAtomic bombs was dropped cuz this japanese surrenderā€(lol, again, poor american sailors, pilots and marines who had to die, all their sacrifice was useless, cuz they did nothing to achieve peace, because only way to made surrender japanese was dropping of atomic bombs on them xD)

Not really. If they captured Pearl Harbor there wouldn’t be a way to americans do something against them. Well, maybe could, but at very high cost.
And Pearl Harbor it’s after all marine base, not peaceful city.
Though during whole war Japan never attacked any of american cities. (Well, they just couldn’t, but still pretty interesting to know if they would done something like they done in Nanking or not?)

Not really big difference from other people even today… Doubt if you any better for example.
Better to follow some emperator than your own stupid needs at least it’s something bigger and global and more meaningful.

Hmm, I even wonder what happen which SU in 1941 to done such terrified thing?

You still living in your own fantasy world I see…
Well keep doing it, at least cuz we need some clowns in our world.

well not really, probably thats why no one cares for SU :clown_face:

No one but you xD

there probably would be ussr equilevant study but since nothing else have changed but name I guess this is acceptable as well.

They don’t listen to the player base here, even though it’s the better game, is the problem…hence why they are trying to bring infantry to WT…but fret not, they will run an event for a winter camo axe to appease the masses lol

Nice to see you proving your level of education in this topic by equalization of RF with USSR…

Pretty interesting to know what kind of conclussion I should done by taking look at some random ā€œresearch of opinionsā€? xD

Dunno if it didnt translate well, but I dont really get your point here.

Well Japan had know idea there was only 3 is the thing, I believe there is a story of how a downed US pilot at the time was captured and when asked about atom bombs, just lied out his ass to say there was hundreds, so by all accounts the Japanese thought there was many more, and who are they to doubt that knowing the industrial might of the US at the time.

As for the effect of atom bombing vs firebombing, put simply firebombing is only effective so many times before there is nothing left to burn, not to mention it took hundreds of bombers at a time to get the desired results. While by all accounts, the Japanese know it only takes a single plane to do 10 times the damage of a firebombing raid. Especially when you consider the wider impacts of atom bombing from the radiation sickness, the outer cones still being set alight, etc etc.

Because it hits a saturation point, also see the point of it taking 100s of planes while are limited for ultimate effect to urban areas. No such issues with atom bombing.

Also its not really the same death if you look at the twisted version of Bushido that was prevalent at the time. Dying in combat was much preferred to dying in fire bombing, still they couldnt firebomb everyone, far from it. And atom bombing is an even worse fate than firebombing in that regard. Honestly this is a topic all of its own, so its very hard to simplify the point here.

I dont know what was anti soviet about that? The fact Im singing fanfare for them? I mean you could make a point for it if I began randomly talking about how they started WW2 or etc, but I digress.

But the point still stands, they were literally training civilians to use bamboo spears to charge US or soviet forces, whoever invaded the home islands first.

Not quite, I have no respect for the Japanese commanders of WW2, however they at least would follow their men in death, down to hell I hope. And this isnt limited to field officers, or even just generals, but all the way up the command chain, in fact many still did kill themselves following the surrender of Japan.

This is a deep topic in regards to what I believe your talking about, the justification of dropping the atom bombs, I mean countless books have been written on it and still there is no consensus on it. However from a purely practical standpoints, millions more would have died should a conventional invasion had taken place, probably millions alone from the direct consequences, perhaps millions more from the indirect consequences, such as via famine or disease or etc.

These millions dont just count allied, whether that be yank, brit, soviet or etc, but honestly mainly the Japanese casualties. However that is a particularly dark bit of alternate history that may not be the best to dwell on.

I love how this post has basically devolved into rationalizing the actions of soviet union compared to japanese, us and such.

What’s this mustache BTW - some link to a Joseph?

Im sorry if this was surprise to you that ppl dont really like ussr :frowning:

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Well funny about that.

There was no plan to invade nor capture Pearl Harbour, it was purely a pre-emptive strike meant to cripple US Naval power in the pacfic.

Pearl Harbour was very close to civilians and certainly as far as Im aware civilians were targeted.

As for the Japanese attacking US cities, there was many many attempts to do so, and I think a single ā€œsuccessfulā€ (When I say successful, I mean they actually reached a city). But I mean mere days after their surrender there was a famous operation that was about to be launched to launch massive vials of biological weapons via ballon to bomb the US, including things like the bubonic plague.

Are you being an Imperial Japanese apologist? Been a while since Ive seen one I must admit.

Wonder if it was the same scary thing that happened to many other nations who still sent the USSR material aid?

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Silent protest

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thought about replying in this topic, but it would just end up like this…

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The Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact was signed on April 13, 1941. Of course, April 13 is after June 22 on Stalinium calendar.

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