End of World War II celebration

Dunno if it didnt translate well, but I dont really get your point here.

Well Japan had know idea there was only 3 is the thing, I believe there is a story of how a downed US pilot at the time was captured and when asked about atom bombs, just lied out his ass to say there was hundreds, so by all accounts the Japanese thought there was many more, and who are they to doubt that knowing the industrial might of the US at the time.

As for the effect of atom bombing vs firebombing, put simply firebombing is only effective so many times before there is nothing left to burn, not to mention it took hundreds of bombers at a time to get the desired results. While by all accounts, the Japanese know it only takes a single plane to do 10 times the damage of a firebombing raid. Especially when you consider the wider impacts of atom bombing from the radiation sickness, the outer cones still being set alight, etc etc.

Because it hits a saturation point, also see the point of it taking 100s of planes while are limited for ultimate effect to urban areas. No such issues with atom bombing.

Also its not really the same death if you look at the twisted version of Bushido that was prevalent at the time. Dying in combat was much preferred to dying in fire bombing, still they couldnt firebomb everyone, far from it. And atom bombing is an even worse fate than firebombing in that regard. Honestly this is a topic all of its own, so its very hard to simplify the point here.

I dont know what was anti soviet about that? The fact Im singing fanfare for them? I mean you could make a point for it if I began randomly talking about how they started WW2 or etc, but I digress.

But the point still stands, they were literally training civilians to use bamboo spears to charge US or soviet forces, whoever invaded the home islands first.

Not quite, I have no respect for the Japanese commanders of WW2, however they at least would follow their men in death, down to hell I hope. And this isnt limited to field officers, or even just generals, but all the way up the command chain, in fact many still did kill themselves following the surrender of Japan.

This is a deep topic in regards to what I believe your talking about, the justification of dropping the atom bombs, I mean countless books have been written on it and still there is no consensus on it. However from a purely practical standpoints, millions more would have died should a conventional invasion had taken place, probably millions alone from the direct consequences, perhaps millions more from the indirect consequences, such as via famine or disease or etc.

These millions dont just count allied, whether that be yank, brit, soviet or etc, but honestly mainly the Japanese casualties. However that is a particularly dark bit of alternate history that may not be the best to dwell on.

I love how this post has basically devolved into rationalizing the actions of soviet union compared to japanese, us and such.

What’s this mustache BTW - some link to a Joseph?

Im sorry if this was surprise to you that ppl dont really like ussr :frowning:

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Well funny about that.

There was no plan to invade nor capture Pearl Harbour, it was purely a pre-emptive strike meant to cripple US Naval power in the pacfic.

Pearl Harbour was very close to civilians and certainly as far as Im aware civilians were targeted.

As for the Japanese attacking US cities, there was many many attempts to do so, and I think a single “successful” (When I say successful, I mean they actually reached a city). But I mean mere days after their surrender there was a famous operation that was about to be launched to launch massive vials of biological weapons via ballon to bomb the US, including things like the bubonic plague.

Are you being an Imperial Japanese apologist? Been a while since Ive seen one I must admit.

Wonder if it was the same scary thing that happened to many other nations who still sent the USSR material aid?

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Silent protest

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thought about replying in this topic, but it would just end up like this…

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The Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact was signed on April 13, 1941. Of course, April 13 is after June 22 on Stalinium calendar.

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lmao, a bit of a joke on here, NIEM, @Master_Snail , Just showing solidarity to add more Italian stuff to the game.

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Si, pronto pronto

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Welcome to the zoo, prince . As you can see here is funny) if you have not an event in a game, you can make an event in a forum. Those guys. Who still fight for the axis - they don’t want to surrender after all these 80 years past

The main point, that’s is a different topic dude. British and chinese of course done certain impact on winning this war, but in the end of the conflict there was only two big events and they don’t related to any of this british/australian/new zeeland/india/indonesia/china.

Well, Japanese ain’t barbarians(put aside my negative bias toward them), and they had pretty decent scientists to calculate that’s one big boom for sure can’t be very cheap. And it’s a new one type of boom, it’s never can’t be put in a big series at the start.

And one pilot it’s just one opinion of enemy. It’s not enough. Also didn’t japanese even had at least one spy in USA close to this project?

Well it’s stronger per one bomb? And again? If think about it, that’s simpler to counter. Although if they anymore hadn’t anything in their arsenal to counter american aviation, what’s again the difference between being bombed to cave age by common bombs or atomic one? So, if american industry so great they could made a lot of common bombs…

Do you really need to destroy every piece of land? All what you need just destroy every city and village and then blockade islands.

Well, we take in consider that’s japanese don’t know how many US have any kind of bombs.

Not really?
It’s was two bombs, not too much time passed, even today I doubt that’s there is a big difference between this two ways of disappear.

Nobody knews about this shit back then.

“Soviet horde”…

It’s also prove my point, though.

Well it would be just strange. Since this have nothing in common with our topic at all.

Every country done something like that. (German folksturm for best example)

Commanders? Maybe few of them or even almost all of them… But there wasn’t only commanders. Probably wrong word I used. Not headquartes, but just “elites”.

Well they had a lot of contradiction in this country. One want to surrender, other is no. One want to attack this country, other no.(Well, pretty common thing for every country and socium though) Constant fight between army and fleet. And etc.

I see no point at all why somebody should was to invade this islands at all.
Allies had enough resources to just isolate japanese there.

Idk, if you count yourself and your friend(if you have one at least), it’s isn’t enough to consider it as people’s(like about 8 billions?) opinion.

Hmm, kinda strange idea to left after americans this pretty serious strategic islands.
Though yeah, main idea which is everywhere says that’s japanese wanted to destroy serious ammount of american navy so they gonna ask for peace and everything in their relaition gonna be okay and japanese would peacefuly annex ocenia and deal with china while continued trading with USA.

Every military base have some % of civillians around.
At best there died few thousands of civillians. It’s just nothing in such large scale war.
Or compare to american effort.

Idk, I heard only about few ballons with explosions that’s killed one or two childrens. That’s all.
Again it’s nothing compare to what americans done to them. And again I didn’t said if they had ability to have civil americans in their power, they would be more friendly with them than with chinese. Good luck to americans to have ocean between Asia/Europe and them. Not every country so lucky.

Nah, I am just a person which hate Japan and everything related to them but wanna be objective.
Since being like TUSUPOLISI69 ain’t good thing.

Is there country that’s sent material aid to USSR and had same amount of destruction and loses like it? Seems like only Poland or China comparable with USSR here… Doubt if occupied Poland could sent anything or anyone anywhere at all(other then own goverment to UK). And if China itself needed supplies, it’s for sure couldn’t sent it to USSR. Like, there was USA and it’s wasn’t affected by war. Also something was sent by UK which is “chilled” on island(it’s wasn’t good, but it’s wasn’t so bad at all).
Also there was some german supplies to China though. Idk when they stopped it.

Not really big difference.

It’s always was like that, it’s still are like that. And it will be like that.
Also we need mods though, they always was come at most interesting point.
Anyway you old enough to know that.

Well if you are unhappy with the study, perhaps you go personally ask yourself from each 8 billion people.

Untill then, I suppose no one just likes USSR.

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So you are prefer to believe some bull… wait, so you do everytime. And even spreading it.

And everybody is purple.

Couse some no name of a f2p game forum says? Huh, not enough. No one in your room I suppose

somekind of study -/- a random soviet on enlisted forums.
You probably understand the choice which to believe aint exactly rocket science.

As said you bff’s are completely free to go and ask each of 8 billion people about theyr opinion.

Im fine with overall study.

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Well, as I said think you want. You free to do that.
You can even pray to pasta monster, it’s your business.

Thanks mate, was expecting your permission for that.

Have you received your permission for free thinking from supreme leader yet :laughing:

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Nah, it’s he got my permission.

You made an unsubstantiated statement, so you have to prove it. I have serious doubts about your education