Encouraging players to play on all factions

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Currently many players only play one faction and this leads to the victory of the popular factions (especially Germany), so playing on the opposing factions becomes hell. We need to encourage players to play on all factions, here are some solutions:

1- Fix join any army:

Currently this option has two big problems, firstly its bonus is low and needs to be increased. And secondly this option in many cases you are forced to play multiple games on a single faction, it has happened to me many times that I have activated this option but I have been forced to fight multiple times on a particular faction (like America or Japan). Here are some solutions:

1- Give players the option to choose a faction: the player can choose two, three or four out of four
factions, two factions give a base bonus of 50%, three factions give 100% and four factions give 150%.

2- Provide variety: Modify the algorithm so that the selected faction becomes more diverse

2- New event format:

Design an event where players are forced to play in different factions to receive rewards, for example: Get 100 kills with the Japanese faction, destroy 10 tanks while playing with the Soviets, etc. But this format should not be such that the player is forced to play all four factions in two days, sometimes I don’t touch the German or Japanese faction for a week, so the mission duration should be long (for example, two weeks)

3- New maps(soviet vs japan):

America and Germany have the most map diversity, so what is the reason to play with other factions for new players? The most important battle that should be added is the Manchurian battle to increase the enemy diversity in the Soviets and Japan. The Manchurian battle should be added, not just one map like Burma, but it should be a set of diverse maps.

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I thought Germany is basically unplayable after recent update. At least according to fellow forum members.

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This could cause a mass player base movement to 1 nation to complete the tasks associated with it and mess up the matchmaker.

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I played 5 games on different servers in us BR2 and lost all 5 of them
I also played a few games on different servers with the Soviets and lost all(except for one)
It’s definitely not my problem, I came first every time, the problem is my teammates, they don’t make relays and don’t know how to shoot, and the enemy is much stronger

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It can be a different set of tasks over a two week period, meaning all the tasks together, so everyone chooses which faction to play first.

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This alone would have me queuing a lot more for any faction games. I don’t like when I get to play 7 games of Germany back to back. Even if it was just changing it to a purely percentage based system of 25% for each faction. Capping at playing 3 games in a row as the same faction, it then goes 33% spread among the other three. Then after that game to break up the repetition, it gives a 12.5% chance to place back into the faction you played three games in a row as to begin with.

If the player then plays that 12.5% faction, they’ll then be locked to the other three again, putting that faction on a “soft cool down” just like with the 33% split. But if they ended up not playing the lower percentage faction, after the second game the 25% split returns to normal.

Rinse and repeat, you then have a dynamic system that should keep a good balance for what nations you play, whilst “play any faction” is enabled, all without burning them out after they play any one nation too many times in a row.

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I wouldn’t say it’s unplayable, at least at level two. However, instead of winning 70% like usual it’s dropped to 50%. Allies at level three has been up, and my level two Soviets are what they always are, about a 60% w/l rate, :rofl:

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Yeah, the queue any algorithm definitely needs to be modified so that if you’re getting overwhelmingly one-2 factions it starts trying to balance it out. Recently most of my queue any is just nearly incessant Germany with a handful of US and Japan sprinkled in.

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That is complete nonsense what a few talking. I played with a streamer a few battles only germans + with my daily mates and we won all battles with germans last days / week (BR II, BR III and BR V). Yes in a few cases we had to go into tryhard mode but most were relaxed battles.

ATM there are many bad players grinding german techtree + new players, teached by these bad players in Enlisted and that sort of players are complaning then in the bug report section “Enlisted is soooooo unfair. Russians and Allies are to strong even with tank. I loose everytime with germans and I don’t enjoy the game anymore” or “all players on russian and allied side are cheating”. xD

I met a guy who said that he had approximately 800-950h in Enlisted and he still thinks that the BattleRating of a weapon and the Tier is the same. He doesn’t build rally points or mark enemies either.
And you can count his kills on one hand while he walks around the maps like a tourist. On top he is complaining how unfair the game is and that Darkflow has to change something so that he wins more battles while he is playing against his own team xD

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In the late evening we almost always end up on the side of the Japanese against the Americans - mostly without resistance from enemy side

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No, its still quite playable. If sometimes unenjoyable. Though US will always be the most unenjoyable hands down.

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BR II allies is pure hell

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I know… I know too well… :sob:

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I have no idea how I can win there.

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I’ve had some matches where I was the top player with only 2500 points (second had like 700) and the opposing side had 5000… BR III uptiers to Japan are brutal if the only BR III thing on the team is a freaking Sherman.

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I don’t believe in maining any faction. If anything you could say I main all factions. Its a shame people need to some incentive to play any faction.

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I don’t main a single faction either. Believe it or not, when I started playing, my first choice was choose any faction because I couldn’t decide, and that was before the bonuses were added. And after that I continued just playing any faction, even though I wasn’t getting any bonuses, because I liked the variety of equipment.

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Thank you for your post.

I like the idea of choosing potential factions to play.

I play Allies, Germans and Japanese.

Sometimes my squadmate and I specifically want to play one of those but often we dont care that much.

But we dont bother with join any team because we could be forced to play USSR which we are stuck with crappy BR I rifles and we hate eastern front maps.

So yeah select Allies and Germany (usual preferences) or Allies and Japan, or all three would be good for us.

I dont agree with events however. I hate when its specified to a faction or a class that most people dont have like flamethrower for example.

I believe events should have options for ALL factions. Eg rather than some fancy assault rifle just for USSR, let every faction have a reward for the tasks.

I agree with new maps. Personally Ive always thought of having China as a sub faction of USSR because:

  1. China used USSR weapons
  2. China also used German, American and British weapons; USSR already has a bunch of copy pastes of these
  3. Fill up the USSR tech tree
  4. Add much needed map variety to USSR and Japan so its not all just snow and Pacific respectively
  5. Add Sino-Japanese War which will attract the massive Chinese playerbase

Im not against Manchuria but I think Sino-Japanese War would be better. I know for myself Id be open to considering USSR if I could play as China VS Japan rather than being stuck on the Eastern Front.

I am aware that Nationalist Chinese squads are currently premium/events in Allied tech tree.

Whatever is chosen I do agree that we need a proper update not just one map.

But to that regard Id like to see more Burma maps. The current Burma map is really good but its only one so it didnt fix the problem of same old same old maps for Japan.

Id want to see a BIG update with a bunch of Sino-Japanese maps (or Manchuria), at least 3 or 4 more Burmese maps and it would be nice to get 2-3 more desert war maps for Allies.

I know Allies VS Germany has a lot of maps on paper but the reality is we usually get stuck with crappy Normandy maps weve been playing for years. Tunisia hasnt had any changes at all.

I really want to see Libya or Egypt added to the game like Tobruk.
Hell Let Loose has a good Tobruk map as well as El Alamein so it can be done for an FPS game.

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I prefer Manchuria, designing a new faction can have many problems.

Class tasks can be stupid at times.
But I don’t think faction tasks are a problem, they can be designed in such a way that you get all the main rewards by playing with two or three factions, and completing more tasks will bring more rewards like silver, customization cards, etc.

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Well last weekend Germany players tested my patience again - three matches in a row no one build rallies.

I quitted like 10 matches yesterday.

Germany dominated past weeks pretty hard, had alot of super easy matches.
Faction Playerbases change, that’s normal.