Commonwealth tech tree

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Firstly, most of this tech tree isnt made by me, i found it while searching for this topic, and just added/removed/changed, for example tier 4 mortar and mgs and few other things, but also added tier 5, as it lacked it completly. Please, read the original post if you want to know more about the equipment in this TT, as i will talk only about things i added
The Commonwealth, as it is right now, is extremly overlooked even though it has a lot of things to offer as its own sepate tree and it would include Great Britain, Canada, India, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand
Tier 1
Commonweatlh Tier 1
Tier 2
Commonwealth Tier 2
Tier 3
Commonwealth tier 3
Tier4
Commonwealth Tier 4
Tier 5
Commonwealth Tier 5

In tier 4, i added M1 Garand, which would go to Canadian premium paratroopers, as i found image of them using Garands
In tier 5, Howell Rifles were issued to the Home Guard
Patchett SMG, AKA early Sterling, were used in 1944 in limited numbers
Comet would be ± on par with the the Japanese Chi-Ri II, and the Centurion MK.I, would have same/bit stronger armor as Pershing, but lower firepower

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:dromedary_camel: :uk: :dromedary_camel:

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Besal tier4? It would also be cool to see Vickers GO and British modifications of BAR and Thompson (the same BSA) and some British 9mm Thompson. As for vehicles, I will add about Churchills with a 90mm howitzer, AVRE modification and Valentine. Also, we need more self-propelled guns like the Bishop.

Sorry, I’m too lazy :dromedary_camel: :dromedary_camel: :dromedary_camel:

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It would be more logical to move the Turner to BR3, since it has no self-loading rifles at all. Although we have Japan, which is even worse with this (Devs, give Japan a Type Hey on 10 already)

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That’s not Commonwealth tech tree, that’s copypaste tech tree

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again, for the 14th time,

DF is not going to make one.

because there’s no need for it.

  • would make us low br a painful experience with not much variety

  • remove the ability for those who like to run with mixed units

  • most of british equipment is event or premium material.
    they aren’t just going to give them away for free.

they can always introduce some british equipment in the US TT.

literally 0 downsides to it.

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Centurion mk 1

“It entered combat with the British Army in the Korean War in 1950”

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The Mk1 was supposed to be deployed as a small batch (just like the Pershing) in Europe 1945 but arrive a few days too late for VE day.

The Korean War Centurion is the Mk3 with three planes stabiliser and 20 pounder gun.

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There is a need for it

  • US lowtier wouldnt be as painfull if the DF actualy red through other suggestions and didnt focus on only adding BR5, because a lot of people made actualy good ones on things that US could get

  • Curently, there is no Commonwealth rifleman squad, Sniper, squad, Rider, radioman, medic, flame throwers, engineers and non-premium apc’s, so if you want to run normal british rifleman squad, yeah, goodluck with that, closest you can get to that is run AT 1 squad/ Mortar squad, equip them all with rifles and call it a day

  • We even have the new Burma campaing, in which were around 1 000 000 Commonwealth soldiers (mostly Indian and British), 250 000 Chinese and only around 10 000 Americns, from which, around 3000 were Merrils Marauders and rest were engineers or air force. But in game trailer, they only shown US marines (which werent even there), but no Brits, Indians or even Chinese

  • Even the British weapons, that we already have in game, are given to US squads even tho they never used them, look at the Lee-Enfield No.4 MkI (T) which could unlock unlock British snipers, but no no no, lets give it to Americans

  • There would be plethora of new campaings, that could be added to Commonwealth as it would include Aussies(Hong Kong, Malayan Campaing, Singapore), Canadians(Hong Kong), Indians (Hong Kong, Malayan Campaing, Singapore, Burma Campaing), Brits (Hong Kong, Malayan Campaing, Singapore, Burma Campaing), but there would be also a lot in Africa, for example Egypt, Tunisia, Ethiopia, in Europe, for example Battle of the Scheldt and even maybe second siege of Dunkirk

  • There would not only be Commowealth, but also exiled countries which contributed on Western Front(Czechoslovaks, Poles, Belgiand, Norwegiand, etc…), because they also contributed a lot and are currently mostly forgoten

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There are like 5 copy pasted smgs, 2 rifles and tank, and it would be much, much better than Japan

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Besal would be tier 4, but BR3, i put it in there because it has higher firerate than Bren, the Beardmore-Faequhar would be BR4

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The Turner SMLE would also be BR3, but in tier 4

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the number of firearms and tanks at low br are heavily limited.

so they still relay on US.

same it goes for the uk.
in order for your idea to even fuction would require at least 7 airplanes and 10 tanks acoss all brs.

which they ain’t gonna do it.

because we do not need japan 2.0 where only just now they can compete with adequate equipment.
after years from it’s introduction. ( 2! )

… so people in the past suggested to introduce those type of squads or reintroduce legacy ones.

should we dismiss that one too?.

we can use chinese, moroc, french partizans & australians units in many campaigns where they aren’t supposed to.

so this point has 0 value.

which could be solved by just letting people buy squads.

and, that’s not unique to british equipment.

that barely involved other nations, shrkining the players for ques.

and who’s gonna play with ww1 rifles?

you can still pretty much, include them in the US TT or as premium squads.

0 downsides to it.

especially for those who likes to use mixed squads.

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I think he meant that we’ve got a true Commonwealth-only front, but we lack the true Commonwealth representation in the game that should have come along with it, which is a travesty and should be rectified. Not that it should only be the Commonwealth in Burma.

Now, for the suggestion itself:

I’d be a happy to settle for a true merged US-Commonwealth “Western Allies” tech tree, problem is that’s not what we have right now. We’ve got a US faction (both in practice and in name) with a mostly US tech tree with the odd Commonwealth item thrown in, not for representation but to fill in tactical gaps for the US (good BA rifles and a jet fighter for example, given to US squads). And when you’re lucky enough to field one of the token Commonwealth squads you can currently get, it’s customization options leaves much to be desired (no winter or tropical uniforms at all).

Whatever compromise supposedly exists, it’s not being honoured by the devs, and we’ll continue to see calls for the Commonwealth to be seperated as a consequence of it being broken. The occasional all Commonwealth match would be nice to see in game, but I will settle for a shared faction if we can actually get a shared faction, for now I’ll settle with supporting any and all calls for change until something is actually done to change things for the better.

On a sidenote, it’s pitiful that the US even needs the Commonwealth as a crutch to fill out it’s tactical niches, and as a piggybank with event/pay-walled items to even fund it.

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Lets be realistic, the game cannot fit a 5th faction.
The first issue is the equipment already present in US tech tree, which cannot be taken away or transfered because that would anger many players.
A standalone British faction would suffer from low player count thus it would always match with US anyway so nothing would change other than people like me or Erika could no longer have mixed British and US line ups.

Not to mention that with the snail’s current pace, it would take 5 major updates (roughly 15 months) to add all these without anyother faction getting anything.

Lets not forget about BP either.
Already existing British BP weapons and soldiers cannot be removed or moved from US faction.
Britain will need its own BP weapons, vehicles and soldiers added to the rotation which will increase the wait time for all factions to get something out of BP.

Overall, nothing to gain but many headaches to suffer from this, not worth it.

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They should just rename USA tech tree to Western allies finally. And start to properly support the minor nations of Western allies, such as British.

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One thing I wish we could do is having 2 separate sets of squads for the same BR.

E.g. if I queue as Axis BR2 I could choose to have Germany BR2 set and Italy BR2 set.

If the matchmaker starts a Tunisia map, I would want my Italy BR2 lineup to be used, and if Moscow then Germany BR2.

Same thing with Allies BR2 including USA BR2 (e.g. Pacific) and UK BR2 (e.g. Tunisia).

This option could be deactivated by default as well not to confuse new players and not to make them spend too much silver on double sets.

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Could add the Valentine tank, Vickers MK VII Tetrarch: Airdropped, (Churchill variants: “Black Prince”, “Crocodile” “AVRE”) and also Canadian Ram Tank, M22 Locust: Airdropped.

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don’t expect it

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It could fit in, but DF would have to do it right

Some equipment, which was used by both USA and Britain could stay in both, but i understand that the tier 3 would be issue as USA couldnt make a bolt action rifle that would be able to compete with SMLE/Lee Enfields

From what i could find on this forum, Reddit and even when i asked in 4 battles, there was interest from the community for Commonwealth to be added
Yes, for some who like to run mixed lineups, but its as bad as being forced to use US rifleman squad because there isnt even a Commonwealth one

I wouldnt mind, if it would be added in 2 years instead of 1 year, but as long as it would be complete, playeble and could compete with Axis/Japan

Personally, i would make option for all the premium squads/battlepass soldiers/weapons to be either transfered or you could keep it at US

As i said, it would be good as long as DF would actually do something
At the end, i wouldnt mind the Commonwealth being with US, but as it is right now, its not Allies or western Allies, its just USA with tiny little bit of British flavour. For example the Turner SMLE, which could be perfect Canadian premium squad, is just generic US squad, the Meteor, which could be used by British squad, is just US squad. British troops in Bulge dont even have any winter clothing, their entire customisation is just overlooked, pacific uniforms are completly wrong, helmet customisation is almost non-existent, they just think that when they slap gloves on them, that it would make that proper winter uniform
As i said, i wouldnt mind the Commonwealth being with US, i even use M1’s with the British, but there need to be either more British/Commonwealth tanks/planes/squads/weapons/engineer placables/customisation added and the USA being renamed to Allies, or just make the Commonwealth its own faction

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