Change the pz III j with the pz IV F2

Ok, got me there. So it’s a rip off.

you know that T60s can also bounce from pz IV and III right?

same as T70s against PZ IV F2 an G.

damage model it’s still the same as we left it.

no one ever touched it. people just accepted because … reasons.*

but i don’t forget the fact that M5s can survive from panther shots at the turett.

no. i don’t.

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Just like it was iconic that Germany started the usage of spg’s in a anti tank role as a response to Soviet tanks buut here we are !! level 37 in Moscow and no stug, not even a fucking marder

Devs don’t care about that they just care about asymmetrical stuff that isn’t asymmetrical at all.

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It’s clearly asymmetrical thought!

In Moscow, Soviets get:

  • Best tanks (even more so with t34)
  • Best planes (the Il is a tank that flies, with rockets and bombs
  • Best smgs (nothing need explaining here, Kiraly is FUN, but not really controllable unless in burst fire)
  • Best lmgs (I prefer the dt29 over mg34, dt29 is recoil less and can be mag dumped, while standing, using the fast click ads)
  • Automatic rifles! Only Soviets have them.

Axis get:

  • best snipers. (Mkb42 sniper is Godly, but will get nerfed soon, cause it’s axis.)

It’s clearly asymmetrical! :clown_face: everything is fiiiine.

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uuuh depends on what you are talking about for planes if CAS then axis is the clear winner

DF: quiet at level 40 the Soviets will get the KV-1 tank :upside_down_face:

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It’s not even a sniper it’s a discount smg. As for actual snipers, AVS sniper is insane.

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No.
Not in Moscow. Rockets and bombs from Il is better. Also… Il doesn’t die :stuck_out_tongue:

Eh, the 110 is also very good.
Though it is a higher tier plane, so allies still wins out.

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Well PZ 4 better against infantry than t28.
Well in tank vs tank, t50 the best, but we not play in wt.

He123 best fighter.
BF 110 best bomber fighter.
Ju just the best bomber.

Kiraly more funny than PPSh.

MG 34 and DT 29 simply have different purposes and methods of using.
MG 34 - rapid destruction of enemy manpower.
DT 29 - slower suppression, but more accurate and more convenient.

So I think the equally.
Well, except AVS, AVS in Moscow is OP.
So ZH needs to be improved somehow.

Come on :laughing:

  • A powerful smg vs a fun smg isn’t equal.
  • A tank good vs infantry vs a tank that will always survive (and thus becomes better vs infantry) isn’t equal
  • Il just is the best all rounder bomber, and never dies

At least don’t say it’s equal :rofl:. Also the numbers speak for themselves; Moscow axis is very often full of bots.

PPSh aren’t powerful, common shit.

T28 aren’t more survive than pz4.
Big different between t26/bt7 and pz3b/e in survival ability(seconds more good), but not between pz4 and t28(both mods).

Not good in bombing as Ju.
Not good in fight as He.
And in general - not fish, not meat.
Standard He123 from 4lvl can very easy down il2, I as very shit pilot was destroyed 5 il for one life on biplane.

Big part of Axis online - Germany lovers.
Germany lovers love what?Of course!Tigers, stg, panzerschrek, mg42, fg42.
This aren’t in Moscow, because Germany war technology was a shit in 41.
And also online devided between 5 campaigns, so online in every Axis side is low.

I didn’t understand this topics about ā€œDevs are biasā€, they must give Axis in Moscow maus, stg45,fg42-2, jet Me?

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Come on friend, you can do better than this. You remember Moscow before the addition of t50? When it was still early lvls? It was fun, and at the time was the most balanced campaign there was. The time has just passed, now. I have a LOT more fun playing Italians at the moment and it should say something… even Axis Tunisia is better balanced (at later lvl) than Moscow is axis is.

Moscow is just not worth my time, weither it be as axis underdog or Soviets bot stompers. I’d rather they transform that campaign as pve only, it’d make more sense.

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Problems in progression.
I played in April of the 21st year, and then everyone was on the starting tanks, with the starting weapons, bolt action.
It was fun. That’s all.
Does it depend on the parties?No. It only depends on the need to add new levels for old players. And for progression.

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And this of course does not work for players for the USSR and the U.S., who avenge their grandfathers?
It seems logical to me that there are far fewer ideological Axis players, since not as many people want to identify with the Nazis.

Here is funny, you yourself say that PPSh crap, although it is the best SMG game by all measures.
It seems to be asking for Pz4 F2. I do not know about it, but that’s what prevented instead of Pz3 J1 give Pz3 L. The same gun, just more armor.

I probably don’t want to talk about this with a lover of Germans.
It also will be offtopic.

It is voracious, so it is unpleasant to play with it. I liked VG 1.5, this is the best mp for me.(Although it’s a rifle)

If it is historical, at least in time frames, it does not matter the quantity.
Anyway, I’m sure that we will see some VK in Axis progression.

28 lvl Berlin USSR. Level 29 Allies in Tunisia.
Lol.
I play for the weapons and maps, I do not associate myself with the side of the conflict, I’m not a degenerate

statistically its the best smg, but i find myself to do more Kills with a mkb.

idk why.

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I think I would be the only one that pointed out the problem months ago…

Interestingly, you thought different at that time.

Of course I did. It wasn’t that bad back then, axis still had redeeming points. It still had the best lmg back then for example, as such it was still playable. There was still some players in axis as well.

But I can only endure so much BS like ā€œhere’s a beretta with only 20 rounds mags as counterpart to the ppsh41 rofllmaobbqlolā€ the recent premiums Lee, and now Katyusha with the t34 is the tiping point for me. I love the t34 in Stalingrad make no mistake, but here at least the pz4f2 is fearsome, not like yet another hand cranked turret pz3…

So yeah. I had my fun with this, but I’m not stepping in this shitshow again.