I just remembered…
still, I want to see his drawing and project… in the case of the АВТ, this is and has been confirmed.
Well thats not exactly true Soviet Union lost a lot of people do to the mass murder Germans did in USSR soviet small arms where of very good quality SVT and PPSh where very reliable compared to Germany that had only reliable LMGs … German tanks where far less reliable then Russians ,German small arms also and German planes Germany could not even have normal standardization in its army the logistics where a nightmare compared to USSR or US. USSR really build very simplistic but reliable equipment when it comes to semi automatic rifles or SMGs Germany had very big problems and tanks also the biggest problem for USSR where electronics and radios if Russian tanks had radios at the begging of the war good luck with Panzer II against KV tank…
They don’t deserve even that. They already have 3x best ARs, Smgs 2x, MG 1x in the game, plus superior jet, rmn-50, 2x the strongest paratroopers in game and body armor.
Why do they need to be the best in all categories, did we forget about asymmetry? I guess now now it means Soviet superiority. Next time they will also receive T-44-100 because we have to overbuff Soviets even more.
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The USSR had parallel production lines at its enterprises, for example, at the tractor plant tanks were produced in parallel even in peacetime, so when the war began, for example, perfume factories immediately switched to the production of military chemicals, clothing factories also immediately switched to the production of military tents and uniforms. The war began at 4 a.m., and at 6 a.m. half a million “Motherland Calls” posters were made. This country was preparing for war.
damn your truth)
I am not saying soviets of ww2 could not build good weapons, i have heard nothing about soviet guns from pistol to cannons being anything but quality. equipment built before the invasion of the Soviet Union by Germany and after ww2 functioned well. but among other things t34 were built increasingly as minimal viable products. Yeah Germans had problems of their own the earl models of German cats (Tigers, panther) would often break down. You forget head lamps and optics which were often just a polished piece of metal but that is nit picking. Truth is everyone but the US had production problems, which is not very fair as the us was the only major state not to have their homeland attacked directly. I am just saying no one fielded a select fire fully automatic full caliber rifle in quantity. Not the Germans with a few thousand fg42s, not russia, no japan, italy or the uk or even the us. I did learn a few things i did not know about the soviets sa rifles i though it was just really the us and a few German guns. sorry to say the poorly equipped Russian horde is even now a slow dying myth in America. I can accept a million and a half semi auto svt 40 but half a million avt 40 fully working sf rifle how did they fail making the svt40 fully auto but make the avt select fire, this does not math.
Well if that’s your point yes but when it comes to reliable German equipment you can say it was ahead of its time but it was not exactly reliable
depends what you consider fully working.
Did it shoot ? Sure.
Could you control the full auto ? According to above wiki for example, not really.
But far as I know it did the job in semi-auto.
Id guess, it remained in production for a year due to different tooling.
In such scenario its better to have a “bad” gun than no gun at all while waiting the production line to switch to another weapon.
Much like pps never entirely replaced ppsh due to fact that there were few factories specialised to make ppsh’s it would have taken more time to replace / make new toolings for just pps in said factories.
Also around those times, I think they already knew the intermediate will be replacing them all.
i knew Cyrillic is different than Latin but i am sure s is not a
second i acknowledge ussr making large numbers of semi auto rifle
but 500k avt able to fire full auto or semi auto, no
no country had a production infantry full auto full caliber rifle, no the 7000 fg42s does not count it was a specialist weapon that could not even equip the 125k paratroopers germany lost in ww2.
when you dont click on the link…
AVT-40 automatic rifle
To supplement the Red Army’s shortage of machine guns, an SVT version capable of full-automatic fire (designated the AVT-40) was ordered into production on 20 May 1942; the first batches reached the troops in July.[11] It was externally similar to the SVT, but its modified safety also acted as a fire selector allowing for both semi-automatic and fully automatic fire modes. When fired automatically the rifle had a rate of fire of approximately 750 RPM, faster than the DP machine gun which fired the same cartridge at 550 RPM. To better resist the stress of automatic fire, the AVT featured a slightly stouter stock made of hardwood usually distinguished with a large “A” engraved in it; surplus AVT stocks were later used on refurbished SVTs. The automatic fire was largely uncontrollable, and the rifles often suffered breakages under the increased strain. Documents discovered after the war indicated that during testing, under continuous automatic fire, an AVT-40’s barrel would be “shot out”, meaning the rifling in the barrel would be completely worn down, in as little as 200-250 rounds.[citation needed] The use of the AVT’s automatic fire mode was subsequently prohibited, and production of the rifle was relatively brief; none were made after the summer of 1943.[11]
AVT-40’s barrel would be “shot out”, meaning the rifling in the barrel would be completely worn down, in as little as 200-250 rounds.[citation needed] The use of the AVT’s automatic fire mode was subsequently prohibited, and production of the rifle was relatively brief; none were made after the summer of 1943.[11]
one how many produce 100 a thousand two a gun that could not function after 200 round, not function well function. sure if you want an actual bullet hose that hits one in thirty rounds rounds. sorry if i missed the one paragraph in ten that supported you’re argument. my point is not that the gun did not exist is that it was not issued as a fully automatic weapon which by this it was not.
but barring all that the issue is power creep a 25 shot avt 40 at 700 rpm is no longer a br5 weapon, we can argue was it used how many were made its not br5.
in my opinion, his actual rate of fire is higher than 400 rounds per minute, it can be seen even on the video.
if they had such stores, then fine, but why not introduce this 47
It has 25 rounds, but the rate of fire is low, but maybe I just have the wrong sources.
Oh that gold order one!
I like it. I use it… and often I fall short of wiping enemy squads because I always forget it only have 15 and not 20
Yeah, I bought all four off BP before they reworked the Madsen and hated the original Madsen. On one hand I get excited when I go into a building and see six enemies in the room, then realize there is no way I can kill them all with 15 rounds. On paper, the RPK looks like the vertical recoil is to high, but I have all my soldiers set to max perks on vertical so the vertical isn’t bad, and it doesn’t sway side to side much, so if they would give it a 20 or 25 round magazine for me I would consider it the best level two MG. It only shoots 500 but I kill a lot of dudes with it. The Madsen now isn’t to bad and I do have one in my APC, but I don’t use my APC much.
The Madsen is so fantastic after the numerous batches of buffs it received over time.
It no longer kicks like a mule due to high recoil and is extremely accurate to boot, as it should.
I now love the firearm. It’s leagues away from the once terrible joke it used to be!
Blessed idea
I think I once heard someone say that some german officers tried to set up domestic production of the ppsh, they were just told no. I also remember hearing that they liked the SVT.
I’m pretty sure that’s an American post-war prototype from Aberdeen…