I was more thinking about how it would behave compared to other guns and I think while it it is not straight 2x, some FG42 models and the Typ Hei would have low 50ish recoil while AVT and T20 range from 80 to 100ish.
Well, depends on the number because SVT rn has around 100 to 110ish recoil and nobody seriously complains about that.
So I guess you can move all of them at least up to 80ish or so and let BaLaNcE decide who gets the worst and best recoil.
I cant understand this concept for you. The best I can tell you is that
“Actual recoil” and “Recoil control pull the aim point back after fire” are BOTH effects done by recoil control. If you delete recoil control, you go from “Actual recoil” back to “Statcard recoil”
The M2 Carbine would go BACK to 76 Vertical x 21 Horizontal
In the case of SVT and AVT
If you always play semiauto
SVT-40 have 112 V_recoil
AVT-40 have 102 V_recoil
Which is reasonable for BRV gun have a little less recoil and larger mag
Indeed, all I am saying is that we should not forget the other rifles with their decent true recoil stats because as I said, the FG42 and the Type Hei would become too strong against Soviets and Americans, who at best might counter with the M2.
I’ll gice you the explain from Euthymia once again
Stop calling to nerf automatic rifles. Knowing our developers they will nerf them to the state of unplayable and meaningless garbage. The easiest and best option ( in my opinion) is to just separate 5BR from all other, so that automatic rifles fight against other automatic rifles, not against semi-automatic rifles.
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Not true. You spent “years” waiting for the devs to make the FGs start in full auto. But that was the wrong answer. The right answer is to have all SF rifles start in Semi.
You think players are to stupid to press a button?
Sounds dope.
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Good
I don’t think we need another mostly useless weapon class in the game, such as flamethrowers after the nerf.
Yeah but seem this bring too much dissatisfaction.
The core about this suggestion is increase recoil control% (maybe reduce recoil as compensation)
This encourages precise bursts of fire rather than just holding the left button.
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Just get rid of all the bs recoil modifiers and display actual numbers on the stat cards.
I missed the original Moscow avs and Berlin avt, high recoil and high ceiling, really fun to use.
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Well, right now SF makes most other weapons in BR5 useless, not just semi-autos because they have higher damage, better accuracy and acceptable recoil compared to machine guns, SMGs and even ARs.
Dunno, they are still situational, not as bad some people claim.
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That’s why they’re BRIV.
Maybe other classes should be upgraded then? Wouldn’t it be better to upgrade the bad than to nerf the good?
So we just turn all other weapons into M16 as well?
Sounds not very logical, realistic or balancing at all.
And even then, apart from magazine size, SF rifles would still win at the end because almost all classes but three (Gunners, Assaulters and Medic) can equip them, including Engineer, Bomber and Radioman, which are more usefull than a Assaulter or Gunner.
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