BR 5 for the American faction is absolutly OP

[GeneralBrus]

@Gr4ndm0th3rL0v3r

The Japanese faction’s automatic rifle with a 30-round magazine deals low damage per shot

no, it deals 13.9 dmg which is above 13.5 dmg.

both kill in one shot against a regular target, so whatever you call “low damage” doesn’t make it better outside of not killing in one shot against Paras.

[Gr4ndm0th3rL0v3r]

Anyway, the biggest problem now is that in Enlisted, the American faction’s T20 series has been excessively buffed, and the German faction’s FG 42 series has been excessively nerfed.

[Conscript_Joe]

@Gr4ndm0th3rL0v3r

the American faction has never been an underdog.

…

So you are an axis main, got it.

Look. While it’s true that nowadays the FGs are not as good (but still good) than the other factions SF rifles, you cannot say axis sufferz.

It’s just silly.

[Valkay]

@Conscript_Joe

not as good (but still good) than the other factions SF rifles

Thr most important weapon is weaker yet the faction doesn’t suffer.

[Conscript_Joe]

There’s more than just sf rifles…

Also, even if the FGs have more recoil than the others, and are the only ones to start in semi
(Yes I agree it both should be fixed)
FGs ARE STILL good arms! They’re not bad!

In truth I’d keep this recoil and semi mode… if devs would correct the bad dispersion they have. If my shots are true I’ll be happy.

But. Anyway.

I dislike br 5. To me, mp40 is axis bread & butter.

[_31420124242011]

›nooo the T20 gave the US small arms parity with Germany and the Type Hei Auto (One failed prototype existed)
lolmao

[Rickyd123]

@_31420124242011

Type Hei Auto (One failed prototype existed)

stats for type hei btw, only weapon (before t20) that came close to this was the feddy

[_i4i]

To OP do you even play US?
Or just a Axis main, whining
Used to be a saying around here, if you don’t play both sides, you really have no opinion, as its biased
Personally, i been saying since i first game played against one(Type Hei Auto) are OP, and i never whine about guns, but when i have to watch a replay, because its a laser, with no visible recoil.

[Ron_McKracker]

@Gr4ndm0th3rL0v3r

BR 5 for the American faction is OP. The Japanese faction’s BR 5 weapons cannot beat the American faction’s BR 5 weapons.

Tell me how this isn’t OP

[robihr]

@ParaDivision

fg42 is still the best rifle overall,

type hei AR is best rifle overall. also t20 and t20e1 are better rifles than fg42 2 (better damage, recoil, dispersion).

@ParaDivision

german planes are overall on par with american ones

well lets not pretend that p47 doesnt exist.

@ParaDivision

smgs are the best too (together with soviets).

german smg are not best. soviets clearly outperform them on all BR levels. you may be thinking of AR which are on par with soviets.

@Gr4ndm0th3rL0v3r

And since the Enlisted merge, the American faction has never been an underdog.

have you been suffering from amnesia? lets remember germans dominating first month after merge and japan dominating ~2 months after BR5 update.

@GeneralBrus

no, it deals 13.9 dmg which is above 13.5 dmg.

problem is damage drop off which requires 2 bullets after ~20m if enemy has vitality perk (120m with no vitality perk), but still type hei AR is best overall rifle cause of other stats.

@Conscript_Joe

FGs ARE STILL good arms! They’re not bad!

agreed, although they could be better considering powercreep from other factions. they just need to buff AVT 40 alongside fg42 2.

[robihr]

remnants from merge… when m18 was equal to tiger E. they fixed this later and now it is BR4.

btw did you post this in wrong topicc?

[robihr]

you can do it yourself… see the trashbin?

[_i4i]

@robihr cheers
no ididnt know, all i ever seen was this

[IceySmooth]

@Gr4ndm0th3rL0v3r

BR 5 for MY NON-MAIN faction is OP. MY MAIN faction’s BR 5 weapons cannot beat the ENEMY faction’s BR 5 weapons. Now, the noobs of the ENEMY faction will drive away all the players of the MY FAVORITE factions with their infantry weapons and [INSERT WEAPON I DIE TO OFTEN] spam that are more powerful than those of MY MAIN faction. There will always be a large number of users who want to play the ENEMY faction, so making the balance in favor of the ENEMY faction will quickly destroy the game’s player balance.

[IceySmooth]

[Valkay]

I wouldn’t advise 25 round magazines since SF rifles are capped at 60 rounds (without ammo pouch) so that would make AVT-40 stuck with 2x 25 round mags.

20 round magazines would be fair given that the T20 is a buffed AVT-40 but with 5 more rounds because DF logic.

[Myrm1don]

Cool gun…just hard to get excited about WW 2 BR 5…cos its getting closer to Korea

Us vs Soviets and A-1 Skyraider when?

[Conscript_Joe]

@robihr

agreed, although they could be better considering powercreep from other factions. they just need to buff AVT 40 alongside fg42 2

Yes.

I think someone suggested to give the avt it’s 20 or 25 rnds mag, which is a good idea imo.

As for the fgs… better recoil, start in auto and less dispersion.

[Rickyd123]

@Conscript_Joe

As for the fgs……less dispersion.

FG42 2’s dispersion is fine, FG42 1’s could go down to 2’s level though it’s also presents some nice attempts at balance between US German and soviet auto rifles; with AVT having 15 rounds 660rpm but the best dispersion, T20 has the quickiest reload but falls in between the FG42II and AVT while FG42 has the fastest rpm and the bipod to help it out.

[robihr]

i think that it would be better to nerf type hei AR and t20/t20e1 rather than buff fg42 2 or AVT40. if you buff all SF rifles they will just make other rifles obsolete.