But isnt helmet armour useless as you get oneshotted anyway from headhot? Also there are black and tan berets
Nah, you totally missed my point. Why not take advantage of it if people are interested? 🤷♂
you’re clutching the straws here.
are we gonna pretend premium vehicles, aircrafts, customization of vehicles, decals, squad upgrades,
soldiers, fomo events, and the others 1000 microtransations aren’t enough?
are you really that blind?
i honestly expected better.
have some self effing respect and dignity please.
not for me. but your self.
although, above all what strucks to me:
so… you’re the one who in the past chanted for historical accurate Bses and yet is completely fine with camouflaged ( TO BE EXPECTED ) in a ww2 game more harder to obtain, than half of the premium weapons that were actually some protos, replacements, not widely used to take a toll in the game?
i guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.
when did i sayed that?
is everything actually that free?
can actually anyone just use the cosmetic that they want without having to invest their time for the appearance orders, or just like me, straight up with gold camouflages?
what are you even saying?
walk me through to the process of " you wish for everything to be free ".
i really wanna know now.
i’m not sure you do to be honest.
not after several statements.
i do believe you’re acting for selfish reasons.
but of course, i could be wrong.
like, that’s some faulty logic at work.
" just because they didn’t do anything up until now, it’s best to castrate the customization for everyone."
sounds to me like that.
and the fact that it has gotten so bad that people are willing giving up just for short term gratification it’s, baffling and horrible.
so, i’m not sure how dooming the customization as a whole favors anyone in this scenario.
i’m sure getting some default base customization of every other title on planet earth would be better.
you know, the thing every other f2p does.
which, i think you still completely missed my point, as buying the prem squad would allow to have use on any other squad WITHOUT having to buy more or spend tickets on it.
i guess you prefer to do it the hard and worse way.
ever heard of the phrase " you give them the hand, and they’ll take your arm " ?
taking advantages it’s one thing.
what is happening in enlisted, is totally another.
Idk, but I definitely do not feel that enlisted has some extreme predatory monetary policy.
i can definitely walk you through.
but we’d be here for ages.
which, it’s beside the point for what we are discussing here.
I don’t mind supporting Enlisted, so I don’t care either way.
But it seems to me you’re not thinking with a clear head lately and you’re permanently triggered.
neither do i.
but for the right things.
not every fucking ounce of pixels for basically most of the basic stuff.
stug IIIs, Calliopes, etc.
legit, most of the premiums vehicle were more of event material and events / go were more of premium material.
as much you’re fine with it, doesn’t mean everyone else is.
because i’m growing tired of waiting and having to argue with other fellow forum remembers for what should have been considered granted for now.
if anything, sounds like shills aren’t precisely thinking it clear.
( p.s. i guess i could be considered a shill too given the ammount of premium stuff that should have been in the tech tree or event vehicles but i’m not that blind )
Historical accuracy is simply not possible anymore. Way too many experimental guns which are not even accurate timewise. I accepted that. Enlisted is heading into a different direction, but it is still a really fun game for me.
You want customization to be accessable by just playing, without having to invest real money. That means “for free” to me, as you do not have to pay. Simple to understand.
It is not selfish to accept reality. Cosmetics have mostly been the only way developers could earn money from it. No matter which game genre. (Hell let loose, Battlefield, Call of duty etc.) So it for me it would be completely okay if the enlisted devs would behave like every other game developer.
Other way around i could say it is selfish of you to want customization freely accessable, without thinking of it being a fair and common way for the developers to earn money too, as the game itself is also free.
I did not miss that point. I think it would be a great idea, i just do not think it will be possible, and i could bet that it will never happen (but feel free to prove me wrong enlisted)
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that’s the " issue " though.
it’s a double standard that you actively partecipate with.
it’s fine for weapons to be available, but not for effing common & widely used camouflages for no apparent reason?.
it wasn’t like that for them to begin with.
i’d call it more " accessible " rather than outright lock it for again, no apparent reason other than monetary ones.
which the key factor would be, if skins were the only income for this game, then rest case.
i would understand, accept it, and move on.
but since, once again, it’s one of many microtransation, makes no sense to lock it for a fraction of squads.
it just becomes stug III Ausf G situation, but worse.
most of these squads with basic colorations and camouflages ( such as polish bar, wz semi auto rifle, field m3 modification, sk and many, many others squads) often are no longer obtainable and lost forever.
not even added to the list like it happened with them mp41 squad and others half partial cosmetics sets available.
what reality.
that’s no reality. that’s resignation and partake in the issue rather than actively tackle it.
the rest as i explained and pointed out if it wasn’t clear to you, there are many other microtransations.
even on common tanks, vehicles, or weapons that took it’s place.
stuff like the SU 76, churchill, stug III etc.
so, it does not justify to lock it entirely and make it expensive at the, ( no pun ) expense of literally everyone.
which, i like to remind you, i didn’t made half of this stuff up.
you can even trace it:
wow… what next, you will be willing to pay a small fee to enter the game too?
lol
based on what
what proves to me, is that half of the community just gave up on simple principles and are willing to actively make it worse for everyone because " welp, it didn’t worked before so " and legit are looking for short term gratifications.
fuck that.
honestly.
i’m shocked by half of the things you just said.
well, perhaps it is a lost cause given the insane support for such radical ideas and indiffierences in this thread.
You are the only radical individual here. But okay.
If anything, the skins should be the part that should be the most monetized. Since it has no effect on gameplay at all.
I honestly don’t understand at all that they came up with something like appearance orders. They could’ve just left all customization behind the paywall. And just a few skins from events they could give away for free.
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→ literally most f2p out there with currencies that can buy cosmetics with experience
" yoU aRe tHE rADicaL oNe "
sure thing adamn…
sure thing…
in case you forgot, i’m just asking for consistency.
that’s the bloody point.
IF were the only transactions available.
it would make in comparison ubisoft a play ground.
but since that’s not the case, i would like to remind you,
THEY STARTED IT THAT WAY.
go read the thread about customization.
so… by the same logic, all premiums should be free because they do have affect to gameplay…
yeah i can see why you’re not in the marketing team.
or they could just expand the fucking customization already by including pieces of premium content.
( LIKE THEY DID INITIALLY, AND KEEP DOING to some minor extents ).
which it all comes to,
they are lazy.
but it’s not a reasonable to twist it in their favor when they already are profiting from it considering the fact that you have to rebuy the same shit across different campaign for no reason.
you are just being willingfully dishonest or just blind. can’t assest precisely which of the two.
No, you are asking for socialistic treatment.
I will not read useless outdated informations. That’s why necroposting is a thing in the first place.
Yes, in ideal world in which enlisted has huge playerbase, then yes.
But obv enlisted isn’t fortnite and ww2 isn’t mainstream topic anymore.
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adamn…
lay off the drugs for a day.
maybe you always have an hard time to keep tracks of arguments that you don’t like to talk about, but i can assure you, it is still pretty much relevant since said system is still in place, and has to do about the customization it self.
lol.
" not relevant " ?
i’m afrait it is adam.
weather you like it or not.
which still pulls more money than enlisted and still has more updates.
not to trash on enlisted of course, but it’s to point a " behavior ".
and you know the various fun facts?
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war thunder is unique, hence can pull it off due to the lack of competitors.
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enlisted is unique, but still has lots of competitors, and it’s failing to gain any popularity because of bugs and various core issues.
not to mention, even in war thunder you do get access to customization relatively for free in a similar manner to enlisted.
it works on xps rather than cards, but you can even obtain bushes, decorations etc.
something that, in enlisted, it failed miserably to replicate.
think about it.
enlisted customization ( speaking of the tank customization here ) despite being taken from war thunder, it doesn’t allow you to grind for the base coloration or change camouflages with obtainable ones like war thunder.
well, it started with the pve thingy, but it died right there.
and the battleground took place.
well, beside the pve, skins where the first source of income from day one.
which, it worked because those were the only microtransations.
enlisted however, it’s like any other cash grabs begging for your money at every corner.
( i’m not claiming it is one, but the ads themselves to ask you to buy premium, all the little flashy colors for gen z over the store quite sure tells the tells about it )
so, no.
the customization does not have to be monetized too.
especially with the current system that can work, but it needs alot of work.
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I do, which is why I despise such socialist attitudes so much.
With pointless and no longer relevant “facts”. It’s just waste of time.
Well, I’d like to see how you’d change and transform such an established aspect of monetization in a game that’s over a decade old.
That’s not true. The very first intention was to make money primarily by selling the PvE story based part of the game, which literally everyone has forgotten about now after the battle royale part has grown to unbelievable proportions.
And the fact that they subsequently made money through skins is just a result of how absolutely huge that game has become.
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The dp42 beltfed for example is straight up an upgrade of the regular dp27. Faster reload, more bullets, 5 soldiers instead of 3. That means that this premium squad is literally op and pay to win basically.
Cosmetics have almost no influence on gameplay chances.
If the game was sold instead of free, i would pay 60$ for it. Thats worth it. Fun for me, the devs earn money.
At least 20 people agree with me, compared to just your opinion.
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but that’s not the case is it?
then why the fuck are you trying to make it similar.
it makes no sense.
taking a system to just rip it apart and make it worke doesn’t sound good to me.
even less officially castrating the customization options for no ones benefit and lost forever behind some pre legacy squads.
you know, there are things that exists and are called " improvements ". never heard of them ?
too bad
oh really?
you sure you wanna play the game of numbers on me?
do i get jet pot?
for your and my own sake, i really do hope numbers make the difference about this topic.
but it’s looking grim for one of us.
People like your idea, (i do so too) but that idea will not become true. You know that as much as i do. Of course no one would say no to free things, but things wont be free.
Its a simple discussion, no need to heat things up.
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it won’t because of post like this and people like you that have given up which are descending to pity compromises that does more harm than good.
i’m not even joking.
dead serious.
except, the customization is not free and still is available as conceived.
which it’s fine.
it does require either money, or effort by completing bps, events and what not.
a bit of a artificial scarcity on the orders which it’s a nuissance.
but it’s fine.
much better than completely make what we fought for years completely pointless.
i will not tollerate it.
nor stand by it
edit:
you are correct. it is a simple discussion.
yet it seems i have been talking to walls for a couple of days that i’m not sure it’s actually that simple as i see some struggles to understand it.
that’s not possible.
i will not stand down.
as much you don’t care, there are people that do.
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