just remember yamamoto and rommel… they were removed just cause of alleged war crimes…
Yamamoto well, what I can say, Rommel wasn´t even evil dude fully, he was the dude who made his job,hell even enemies respect him!
No, the NKVD appears more often on the front lines compare with Gestapo and Kempeitai.
The latter operates more in the occupied territories.
Please, Don’t derail the topic talking about something else
SS in game are censored, NKVD is not.
bro not every SS or NKVD unit was criminal—they were part of major battles and actually fought in WWII, so their presence in the game makes sense.
But Unit 731? That’s on a whole different level. It’s comparable to Auschwitz’s guards or the Gestapo, and there’s no place for that kind of content in a game.
keep it about actual combat units!
Back to the topic itself, I don’t really want another Chinese trophy, I really like Japanese weapons, Japanese designers had their own take on what makes them so different from US or USSR weapons at times. Generally it would be logical to get Japan a guerrilla squad from the event. For all I know, airfield personnel could often remain behind the front lines as the American military moved on. Plus, such squads often modified airplane machine guns. It seems to me they would have been well suited as “guerrillas”:





But getting back to the Kempeitai, I think it would be great to arm them with a modification of the ZB 26 for the 6.5mm cartridge:
We also have a Type 11 modification for armored vehicles, the Type 91. I consider the Type 11 a very original machine gun, symbolizing its special way in the Japanese armament industry, the distinctive features of this model are the larger hopper (45 rounds) and the possibility of installing optics:
And so on…
Japan had a lot of experienced machine guns!
okey, you start it, you want soldiers, HERE YOU HAVE them, the 731 HAVE soldiers, and I refuse share the field tests, but you know what they did, everyone we know, but if we have the damn SS and the NK they should be too, we have stuff who never enter in combat like AS-44 or Ho-Ri already in game, what you say don´t have sense
“we have a police unit in game so let’s add unit 731”
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I agree with making them an event squad but please with a different gun,
Regarding the SIG SMG
I know that one image showing a SIG MP 1930 (not the same as the MKMS btw) is occasionally brought up and there’s another book mentioning it but beyond that there’s pretty much no confirmation at all if this was ever the case (and even if, only confined to a few Mengjiang body guards).
The image is from “Chinese Civil War Armies 1911-49” by P. Jowett btw, since people often repost it without a source.
SIG MP 1930. Image from Get_Em_Puppy's World SMGs
The other mention:
From “Rays of the Rising Sun: Armed Forces of Japan’s Asian Allies 1931-45: Volume 1: China and Manchukuo” by Jowett, Philip S. Pg.56
Back to the Kempeitai
Now regarding what they’d actually be armed with, usually just handguns and ofc their swords, but there’s this image I found a while ago showing them with a few other guns (Type 38 carbine, SIG Bergmann and ZB26).
I really don’t like the idea of reusing Chinese captured guns once again but in this case it would be fitting for once.
And considering how popular the ZB26 was with Japanese troops its honestly weird that of all the captured and reused guns this one isn’t on the Japanese side yet.
Maybe to make it more interesting they could go with the ZB30 instead and instead of the 20rnd mag a 30rnd one which was used by China at the time as well.
From " China’s Small Arms of the 2nd Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945)" by Bin Shih Pg.156
Thanks for the detailed information. Appreciate it.
Also as far as I know it is possible to do with Japanese experimental modifications. Before the Type 97 was created, there was a prototype ZB 26 with a box magazine for 30 rounds:
In addition, when Japan took over a number of manufactories in China, one of these began to be made for the Japanese army ZB 26 for the Japanese cartridge (using a slightly modified Type 96 magazine):
I wouldn’t like to. The most pointless suggestion. The NKVD has been in the game since the very beginning. It’s literally the first squad available to the player. It seems to me that Japan has many other worthy squads to add to the game.
We are just discussing things here. No need to be rude and call other people’s suggestions ‘pointless’. The amount of s on my post points to the fact that many people would like to see this squad in-game. As for other interesting squads for Japan I have already made a post about adding the Volunteer Fighting Corps.
I was just being honest. There is no reason to add this squad.
There is zero reason to talk about unit 731 here, by that logic we could as well be discussing Auschwitz. What could possibly go wrong?
Fair enough. As the saying goes ‘To each their own.’