You still (unfortunately) get defense fairly often.
HEAT has worse post-pen than APHE. It’s only adavntage would be 80mm pen, which would help the F1 pen the T50 better. And seeing as it’s counterpart, the T28E can pen all the axis tanks and OHK, I don’t see a problem with the F1 doing the same.
Same for the Pz4.
It’s a T50 dude not a M22 Locust, anytime they go to shoot they have to stop completely or slow down
nop the pz IV is faster and smaller the t28 just cant exit the blast radious in time, if cas is in the air the t28 is guaranteed to die.
doesnt matter too much, it has enough post pen to kill all 4 crew mebers and OHK a t50 reliably
yes but the t28E is 2 times bigger, slower, has an higer reload speed and still can be penned easily by the 75mm of the pzIV.
Not like they drive much anyway. But the 37mm can only pen if the T50’s turret is facing completely towards you, whivh means it will shoot you and most likely disable you in 1 shot.
Just like T28E can OHK panzer 3J.
Not really. It’s a little taller and slightly longer, but not by that much.
Again, not by much. And it does seem to have better HE.
That goes both ways. And the T28E actually has an easier time penning Panzer4.
Also if T-50 is way too far for you to be able to reliably target that one pixel on turret cheek, or not braindead, good luck on dealing with that thing. Penetrating hits in that case are matter of pure luck
No, it is not impossible to destroy, but the amount of effort you need to put up is way too high against a tank that can literally 2 shot you with little to no effort.
enough to be killed by a reloading pz IV or cas
still a easy much easier target to spot, and im talking from experience
the only thing fair is changing the t28 with the t28E, replcae the pz IV f1 with the pz IV F2, and russian get a t34 (1941 version) instead of the t28E.
both tanks are pretty much equal.
same goeas the other way.
Honestly, same for me. Both are huge af, you’d have to be blind not to spot them.
No.
Panzer 4F1 should get the 80mm pen HEAT shell. What’s so problematic aobut that? That your favourite noobstomper T50 will no longer be immortal?
i actually dont use much the t50, until now it wasnt even in my line up (really im lvl 12 with russians in moscow so i dont play much with russian at all)
my problem is that ppl dont even want to understand or put worrk in actually undesrtanding how to kill a tank, they just screm this OP that OP like cas doesnt exist detah packs dont exist and a even a fucking AT rifle can broke tracks of the t50.
but noooo the only way to kill a t50 is with a pz IV i guess
Thing is,
This is a counter for all tanks in general.
Just because a T50 is as easy to detpack as a panzer 1 doesn’t mean that they’re equally as strong.
Tanks need to be capable of taking out enemy tanks.
And that’s precisely why the T50 is op. Cause all the tanks it faces struggle against it, and the earliest one that has a somewhat plausible chance agianst it is unlocked at lvl22. And it’s your best option you get.
And it’s not even like Stuart vs Panther matchup, cause the T50 is smaller, faster and more agile than every german tank.
Otherwise if we say, “Oh, you can just detpack/bomb it, so it’s balanced”, then we might as well add in the next level as Kv-1 vs Panzer1. And that’s the same logic you’re putting down here.
And yes, yo ucan indeed waste 5 minutes and your entire ammo supply to destroy a T50 track with an AT rifle if that’s what you’re into
So, got any actual reaosns for why the F1 shouldn’t get HEAT?
so in normandy the tiger and panther are OP? you basically cant do nothing until lvl 31, and even at lvl 31 the TD struggle.
lol pen everything with a fairly survivable tank and a powerfull HE shells that can OHK everthing excluded t28s
I never said that the odds weren’t stacked against a Pz III E only that it’s not impossible to kill a T50 from the front with the 37mm
I agree entirely.
At the very least they should not have made it readily available at lvl 1 or 2 (or was it 3?) For a mere gold order… it screwed it’s rarity.
There is no such a thing as “rarity” in enlisted.
Almost everything is spammable with almost no limits. Exeptions being gold order weapons, sabres and twitch dorps (that are mostly cosmetic).
The only thing I can think of, that is not spamable is the mortar squad as we have only one per side per campaign.
No, I prefer to spam a HE, because you can kill a lot infantry with one shot.
3 dt it’s funny, but it not such good as 75mm with only 3 sec reload(or lower).
By that I meant the tank is supposed to be lvl 30 something, only a few players ever reach that lvl. As such… it would be rare, like Normandy panther for example. Right now everyone, EVERYONE can drive the t-50 for just 1 gold order.
Well it’s a 75mm howitzer vs a lineup
of generally compact tanks, of course it’s going to one shot every tank all the time, the same way it would do exactly like in war thunder, one of the most realistic tank combat game out there
So i say it may not be fair but who cares, it’s realistic, this is not world of tanks, you can’t take direct hits from a 122mm cannon and walk out fine, in real life it’s one hit and you’re gone for good
It doesn’t need to be a one to one counter part sort of balance
But he’ll I’m certain that the devs do indeed hate Moscow axis, it’s either that or it’s because Moscow and other smaller axis campaigns aren’t as marketable for newer players so they don’t feel inclined to add anything new/ OP/broken/meta or interesting to these campaigns so they just do the bare minimum and add mostly, filler content without a care
Reason for why i believe that is just see Normandy axis, they have so much cool stuff, smgs, mg’s, broken tanks, broken attacker planes and useful fighter planes
I imagine they get so much love from the devs is because of how much popular and marketable Normandy axis is compared to the much less famous battles in Tunisia and the beginning of operation Barbarossa before Stalingrad
i personally believe the reason the dev put the T50 available so early. is because f2p players can’t be bother to spend a single dime on a battle pass just to get a vehicle gold order
the devs hate the axis equally. berlin is a massive axis bot farming fest for the soviets.
Panther can be flanked with the stuart.
And I believe both can be destroyed by PIAT I believe, so that’s another way.
But yes, they are Op, just like Jumbo.
It can very much OHK T28s.
But you seem to not understand that the T28E is legit the same thing. Except it can get rid of Both Pz3J and Pz4. The Panzer4s can’t do that against T50. So the F1 should get HEAT to make it truly equal to the T28E.