Axis moscow need to nerf

It’s a threat to a Panzer 4 or Panzer 3 And when they’re Swarming you like zombies I can’t stop all of them.

When every match I played at the time on Xbox when that glitch happened there was a Firefly in every match How would you feel if you were on Xbox back then every time you kill a tiger another one came out of nowhere or Panther they just kept coming.

Again, there was no glitch, and if you played Allies following the addition of the Panther, that was exactly what the case was. They added the Firefly as a something you could purchase later and people bought it because it was the only reasonable counter. And no, the fact that you were on console changes nothing.

This is going nowhere you’re not gonna convince me I’m not gonna convince you let’s just put this to bed because this is going nowhere.

No because you are completely in the wrong, and having you spread stupid ideas like there ever being a glitch that let people get free fireflies will just lead to further problems down the road. We are nipping this in the bud right now. There was never such a glitch, and every firefly you saw was one someone paid for.

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ask your nazi grandpa for some tips and tricks they used during the war.

Maybe he can play along with ya?

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Of course.
Because Shermans against germans and Pz.IV against soviets typically operate in strategic superiority. While 34s were mostly used like tanks in one country to the west of Russia are being used nowadays. Tactical record does not explain qualities of the tank itself. Not to speak of poor skills of average soviet tanker and commanders who give orders to tank crews compared to german.

Representative of how your percentage correlates with battle of Moscow, because it covers more than a year, while battle for Moscow ought to use stats from first half of this period.

And its what written under your percentage.

“Most significantly, approximately three quarters of T-34s were destroyed by standard issue 1941-42 German tanks and AT guns (excluding 75mm guns). These weapons (20-50mm) would have needed to get perilously close to a T-34 frontally, or hit it in its more vulnerable side or rear armour. The conclusion has to be that the large majority of T-34s were destroyed because their crews could not pre-empt these weapons from getting into a killing position (usually because no crew member was in a position to see the enemy early), and were slow to acquire the enemy target once it became known. This is consistent with a very poor Fire Control Efficiency (FCE) factor in the T-34/76.”

Yep, if i’m playing 1941 scenario i want to have T-34 superiority over german tanks in it, instead of having late 1942 experience in 1941.
For some lame reason what works for germans in Berlin - with armour quality superiority does work in Moscow for germans aswell, while it should be vice versa.

What that fails to account for is the quality control of soviet tanks, and how the steel was hardened to such a degree that even the 37mm could cause spalling or cracking if it hit from a reasonable range. OFC, this game removes quality and mechanical issues (hence why Panther and KT operate perfectly fine), so other ways have to be found to balance this out. Borrowing tanks from adjacent time periods is one such solution.

Setting asides everything incorrect about this statement (lackluster Soviet logistics preventing T-34s from being used en mass, the quality control issues mentioned earlier, etc.), this is a game first and not a simulator. The game has to be balanced to some degree for both sides and either that means not including things that would completely unbalance the game, or pulling a few strings. The devs chose the latter option a long time ago when they stated their criteria for adding things to campaigns was “if it existed in that time period, we can add it”. This will mean things like Panzer IV F2 in Moscow and Jumbo in Normandy are perfectly fine, but it also allows for things like any German Aircraft in Normandy other than the Fw 190 A8, as well as the P-38G which was withdrawn from service in Europe and replaced by the P-38J, K and L variants well before D-day, however is required to balance the lackluster options for aircraft the Germans have.

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Its retardation, not a solution. Germany still has times better payload on its planes. Give soviets 500 kilos then if you are mirroring everything. Or in case when soviets ought to be mirrored its suddenly not a solution?

It does not exist in battle of Moscow time period. It was bloody developed after this battle was months over. Same applies to STG prototypes that were developed in late 1942 in laughable amounts.

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Russians have rockets instead, and their payloads are split between several smaller payload items instead. Furthermore, the devs gave forged bombs (all soviet bombs) bonus damage against infantry at the cost of less damage against tanks. You may not like this trade, but it is a fair tradeoff.

The F2 saw it’s first prototype late 1941 and had a production run from March of 1942 and June of 1943, so one did absolutely exist during that time. As for the MkB, we know for sure that prototypes of it existed as both the MkB 42 (H) and the MkB 42 (W) were both undergoing trials at that time, with the MkB 42 (H) allegedly being dropped into Leningrad for field testing (no one has been able to confirm or deny this statement, however it is evidence that the MkBs existed during that time).

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Well then I may as well ask the Mujahideen for some tips on tank warfare as well.

Pointless?
For like three posts you had no idea what I was talking about but needed to listen to weird Soviet main talk that made no sense in the context.
But please tell me more about pointless comrade.

Has been said to the devs since SG release and still didnt get fixed.
But I guess just getting used to reversed recoil in one campaign for one side or just switch other side because it doesnt affect the Soviets I guess.

And I was obviously not talking about that so I dont know why Mister KGB needs to talk about that AGAIN.

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Yeah Why do they let people buy tanks that can pen the mantlet of the Panther?
Thats unfair. How else can PsychoParrot camp on Mustafar hills?

At this point, even bots wouldnt mean fair fight for you.
Keep losing against a free Jumbo in tanks that can at best pen 0.01% of the front of your German tank is next level stupidity but then I am talking to someone who doesnt know the difference between lb and kg so jokes is on us.

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I was talking about what happened in the past when I was on Xbox.

and thank you for acknowledging my new name it’s perfect PsychoParrot.

It is only a game not encyclopedia.

And that makes it less skill issue?

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T34 85 seems to have gotten nerfed, in Berlin I destroy them rather fast with my L70 and long 7.5cm guns, but from what I have seen the Panzer IV F2 gun hasn’t changed much…

Guess I should play more Moscow, only sad that Normandy and Berlin has got some nice goodies to be grinded…

But on a serious note, OP must have eaten a bunch of Stalinium cereals if he thinks T34 countered Panzer IVs and made them obsolete.

@FastGT007 @Bigote0070
Out of order.

If you read the link you would know the reason it used 1942 data was used was to avoid the “soooo many t-34s were lost because mechanical issues part of the debate”

In 1941 t-34s and kv-1s outnumbered the german tanks that were theoretically capable of taking them out by 1.7 times and still lost 7 of them for every german AFV.

This is at the time were they had their biggest advantage, on defence and against obsolete enemies.

And they did terrible, as they did in all years…even after they gained the initiative, experience and later models.

Numbers just tell a story, even if all we knew is how many were manufactered and how many were lost, and nothing else…it does not speak well of them

Now I think t-34s and KV-1s are awesome. I Just hate the overblown myths when numbers cant back it up, ruins it for me.

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