Automatic rifle idea

Theres also games that are already historically accurated and realistic. So why are you asking the most arcade game possible to be turned into one of them ?

And that is stated where ? If the Squad mode would have anything to do with realism or historical accuracy, it would have been that from the day 1. Clearly it isnt, because that doesnt atract players.

Perhaps because u can actually stab 19 bots without single one of them realizing whats happening, bots running to artillery from the cover etc etc etc etc

neither are you your so biased for Germans its not funny every week i see tons of thread crying and not providing any evidence other than your opinion you have no valid points

if you are saying this,
than perhaps you are looking at the wrong people.

and should start looking others individuals or look up a bit better.

because as far i can tell, me and many others usually use ba on the frontline.

not behind some bushes.

we could say the same but on the other way around :woman_shrugging:

why should we have to go some where else for its you who should leave instead of telling every one how to play and how to use this or you can only do this

So you want to remove assaulyers and gunners from the game?
Sory burlt I don’t agree with your idea

I’m not using snipers at all.

In other words:
I don’t like BA rifles so gib me full autoz pleaze.
You want historical accuracy, go to hell.

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And ? Hes reason is just as good as yours.
You want people to be forced use adequate BA’s because thats what breaks the
ā€œhistorical atmosphereā€ for you
Could just as well say you should go to hell and go to play already historically accurated games.

not really they nerfed 2/3 of the Americans tree most stuff now is totally useless m1 carbine, m1 grand, Thompson any thing good that the americans have gets nerfed so i just use full atuo no spam clicking, no getting downed when u should dead, no camping grey area that we cant reach you
but again this is fair to a German main cause all they wanna do is stomp non stop dont play objective, spam planes, tanks crazy amounts of ammo considering they were starving running low on ammo if u want historical accuracy just dont limit your option

exept, they haven’t been touched ( like, never ).

it’s different than being nerfed.

you are… degenrating.
the thompson never got touched as well since it has been introduced.
the only tweaks that has been made, was during cbt.

i hardly think you know how it was before.
( with all due respect ).

exept, burst fire is a thing.

" you " ?

i feel anger.
let it out if it works, but don’t know what to tell you.
and, dont think it actually means anything considering that all players are free, and some of them do shoot from gray area no matter faction.

that’s… not actually true?

i’m always somewhat first because i play objective, and look who decide to shows up. the americans!.

funny, isn’t it?.

if i would have fun by stoping as you say, i wouldn’t complain about smgs, exept i do!. oh no!.
guess what, i’m for balance rather than make my faction better. which, to clarify, i play all factions. so…

and i feel like limitations should be applied.
especially for balance.

but i guess we have different opinions.
:woman_shrugging:

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I don’t. I want mix of arcade and sim that was advertised.

I can’t find it now. But I found this in the presskit: Most of the Enlisted gamemodes simulate a battle involving […]
And where is your arcady part?

Actually it was in CBT.

And what does it have in common with equipment and maps?

which speaking off, as far as i’m watching, we are following the same path of some others free to play that end up miserably.

devs always try to listen for newer people, and try to make the game more " user friendly ", but in the wrong way.

at the point where players that never have been touched this game seriously demands for more arcady game based on other titles that they tried.

which if you ask me, shouldn’t go that way.

this is why, as a beta, it’s still pretty much underwork, and if can be tweaked for the good, should be done asap.

again, no offence towards any new members, because some of them actually have valid points and opinions, but not those like in your scenario, are ligitmally trying to make the game ā€œeasierā€ & worse because lacks of skill to use a simple ba…
or start simple to rant against people that plays different nations or based on experience, gives different opinions.

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Except my demand is in the marketing things. So I have a right as a consumer to demand it and they have obligation to fulfill it. Otherweise it’s false advertising.

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Yeah LW.

Sounds quite hypocritical to ā€œblameā€ full-auto weapons ( Which are relatively rare currently ) while the bots alone makes sure this will never be a gamemode that could be even from distance considered as historically accurated game, even less to create historical atmosphere.

Damn must have been fun and popular since they reverted it.

Maps perhaps and weapons does have historically correct names so in that sense you should be able to sleep just fine next night.

EULA, just like every other game developer they will make sure that they aint responsible to anything you request. They can turn this into mariokart 9000 if they want and legally they have no obligations towards you. Even if you spent your life savings on the game.

LW, its ā€œrealisticā€

LW doesn’t count as ā€œmost of enlisted gamemodesā€. And again, I didn’t ask for that change.

And about bots being unhistorical. With this approatch we should change Enlisted to a movie to make it historical because there always will be one idiot that will do ā€œunhistorical thingsā€ that would make the whole game unhistorical.
In other words: bots are dump because it’s a game, almost any interacrion will cause unhistorical things.

another individual that speaks for ignorance…

my god. do you even get paid?.

first of all,

if LW is a mix of arcade and sim,
than you have no clue on what they are actually supposed to be.

it is not, and unfortunately, since obt those " rare " weapons are not so " rare ".

is this supposed even to be a valid point of argument?

it’s been over 4 messages that you keep blaining bots.
it’s like spitting in the wind. which result will give you? nothing.
and once again, not to sounds rude, but i don’t see any connection between bots and the game because having bots cannot be considered historically accurate.

exept, it hasn’t been reverted.
actually, yes, during cat we had the opportunity to expand 4 or more role having around 5/6 automatic weapons. people complained, and has been " nerfed " during cbt.

now that they reached obt, they experimented once again. doesn’t mean it failed in cbt.
so, if you don’t know what you are talking about, please, don’t talk about it.

you need some help :woman_shrugging:

not for being karen here, but according to the same EULA and the famous " customer’s rights " ( which let me tell you, are a thing, and you should look up for them ) it is pretty much illegal to false advertise your product. happened before, still happeneing, and most likely will happen. enlisted perhaps should not follow the same route. don’t you think?.

so your point is, just because looks realistic to you, it means that it is? or should be like that and tells the others to go there?.

i’m honestly speachless.

if you get paid, i’ll double it to rise down with those bs…

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Have to say, idk how many game modes there is but far as I know theres 2, so yeah. Thats enough to advertise it as historically accurated / realistic.

Yeah, there will always be those special ones. Now in current state over 90% of them are those special ones.

Id say theres minor differency between few players being idiots and 90% of bots being idiots.
In historical terms, if this was accurated depiction of how ww2 actually was, id say ww2 would have never ended.

No, bots don’t make it unhistorical, they make it a game.
And LW isn’t more historical nor more realistic. It’s just different.

Im not forcing my ā€œhistorically accuratedā€ nit-picks to you quite vice versa. Im completely fine with current arcade mode.

Enough rare for me to sleep my nights just fine.

If I actually recorded a game of squad mode and publish the video with marketing words
ā€œhistorically accurated,realistic & atmosphere of ww2ā€
My grandfather would resurrect from hes grave and sue my ass for blasphemy and disgrace of veterans.
But fine, heres few other reasons aint going to bother write a essay what else is ā€œwrongā€

Guns are not historically accuared.
Damage models arent accurated.
Perks arent historically accurated.
Modded guns arent historically accurated.

They aint false advertising, theres LW for your historically accurated realism needs.
I dont recall anyone sueing cod for having zombie mode.

Yeah, customer has rights, depending of the goods you have unused / few hours / 7days / 14days / unlimited time to return the goods if you have a good reason for your return.
But when we are speaking of the video games the short explanation would be you DONT own anything. You rented the right to use said good.
But good luck if you wish to take your argument to court.

Its by far closer to realism than squads mode.
Well, ironicly you are here force feeding your narrative of weapons restrictions using historical accuracy & realism as scapegoat.
Which is why I dont exactly understand why dont you play the most historically accurated & realistic mode this game has to offer ?
We who rather play the arcade version of the game dont have such luxury as simply switching game mode. You do have.

??

that’s unrelated?

i don’t… care?

perhaps you should start reconsider your answers.
or recognize the context.

you see, those are " minor " details, as this is a free to play after all.
which i give you the actual point of it.

like, perhaps i expressed my self bad, and i don’t mean it totally accurate for obvious reasons.
otherwise wouldn’t be fun.

but since me, and many others tried the alpha, the beta, and all the others version, we understand that things can change, but if you start with the right foot and ( devs ) have in the mindset balance for gameplay, that’s totally fine. but i don’t see why trash it one version after.
it’s actually mistleading. me and others putted money in this title.

and for logic, it’s not healthy nor necessary making your playerbase somewhat play with one mindset, and once it reached obt, complealty changed.
yes, you can, but we are facing results.

we have different ideas of the game based on different experiences.
you can be somewhat right by your point of view, but it is not by the same point of view of who actually supported this title, and who actually tested this game to reach this point.

but i guess devs do whatever they want.

n-no.

you obviously don’t know what you are talking about, nor how lw works.

you must be new, don’t you?

n-no.

roughly, yes.

unlike you, i don’t stand in the fire and accept the "S**t " devs delivered to us and pretending that is fine.
let me tell you, this game will not last like war thunder for sure at this rate.

because once again it’s not remotely historically accurate.
i feel like i have to say this, because you clearly don’t know how it works, perhaps never tried, and don’t even know how it should work.

but LW it’s not historical accurate at all.

because removing some hud, abilitate friendly fire i wouldn’t call it historical accurate. nor it’s not what it has to offer.

which even the devs called it " hardcore lone wolf ". as the name suggest, it’s just an hardcore lone wolf.

on the other hand, to be historical accurate ( which none wants, perhaps they falsely call it as such like i did ) because otherwise you would see kv1s or t34s against merely pz ivs, iiis and yada yada yada.

not to mention, LW does not limit assault weapons. does quite the opposite. there, it’s full of people with automatic weapons which once again becomes not " historical ".

but i feel like this whole conversation it’s somewhat pointless since you don’t even see the actual problem.
i can somewhat understand, but stop giving false statement and not even looking up at what it’s being discussed.

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Id say it is quite related as I stand on completely opposite side of the fence. Im completely fine with the direction the devs has taken & not asking anyones preferred way of playing being limited.

I could say the current M2 / FG42 being completely unlimited is just ā€œminorā€ detail as well.

One mans garbage is one mans gold. The current state M2 / FG being available for troopers IMO makes troopers more balanced compared to others. With BA they had absolutely no other job than being cannonfodder. Now, we could argue the rest of night how ppl can do just fine with BA but lets be honest here, regardless how good you are with BA you wont stand a chance against equally skilled automatic user.
Well HNG went to direction of realism after being started as complete arcade game. It died.
EULA.

Quite obviously, if you were asking a another squad mode to replace the LW mode that was dead and died harder after the ā€œrealismā€ update, I would completely agree with you.
But in the current state I dont see the Squad mode in any manner as historically correct or even less realistic I simply cannot agree with any of the arguments based on historical accuracy / realism even if that wasnt the case I would still disagree as im completely fine with the current arcade setup.

They indeed do.

It doesnt exactly need a university degree to figure out LW is more realistic mode over squads.

To EULA subject ? Unfortunately no.

y-yes.

Iam completely fine with current trooper setup so I dont consider it as shit at all.

Still is the most historical accurated / realistic mode the game has to offer, regardless you like it or not.

I dont have any problems with the current game.

Theres nothing historically accurated or realistic in squads. Nothing, its historically accurated & realistic as mariokart would be in WW2 theme.
LW doesnt have huds, that alone makes it more realistic, no need to continue on that matter any further.

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you do realize splitting the community will kill the game faster than compromising right
i really dont understand why everyone is whinning about the guns and its no fun why dont you let people play the way they want i mean how does it effect you it doesn’t other than win or lose cause i hate ba now after being forced to play with them until level 22 i think now i dont wanna go back to them and wont go back to them unless of an event

so why do you have the right to tell me how im going to play or what i choose to take in battle or what i don’t take or which squad i take i mean why dont you just take all guns away and make it Sarcastaball from south park instead of bullets u have to compliment the other team on how well there doing and say nice things