btw the halftrack of your picture is sdkfz251/22 . the /9 is with 75mm l24
ohh well
The 251/9 has the same gun the P III N has and is time appropriate (7.5 cmkwk L 24)
If this had a HEAT round it would be pretty effective (irl they did)
The Sd.Kfz. 251/22, with the PAK 40, was a very late war entry begging of 45
it started seeing action in 1945 but was made in 1944, so its a same concept to the how the chaffee was added
I will admit to being a bit vague about their extremely lax inclusion rules, but I thought it had to do with if it was alive during the time of the chapter, so if youâre thinking of this for Normandie I donât think it would fit, because they werenât born until December 1944 from what I understand
The M24 was built from April of 44, but did not action till December
But⌠the Late war HEAT round for the 7.5 cm KwK L24 could do 114 mm of armor from what I recall, so the 251/9 would be pretty effective
Yes, yes and yea.
Perhaps as collector/ collectionable squad for 20 euro each.
But, the only place I would see the halftrack 251 with the 75/76 itâs either Normandy, and / or Berlin.
( since it was made in 1944 )
The t48 ( or also called su57 by the Russians ) either in Tunisia for the ally ( since it was designed for that even though never saw action on it. Guess we could say the same about jumbos and m24s ) or, for the russians at Stalingrad. ( didnât saw Stalingrad as well. But it would be more balanced there )
Otherwise this thing would struggle against tigers and panthers.
Then we also have the others at half tracks from war thunder. The 251/10 with happy 37 mm perfect for Moscow, since it would be able to pen even t50s
( present both in enlisted, and war thunder. Although, I donât know if they fixed it yet [0.1.19.65] "Special" Bug report 3/3 - Halftrack 251/10 )
And lastly for Tunisia, the sdkfz 251/9 ( I believe ) with a short 50 mm.
( which itâs present in war thunder, but hidden in the files )
So many of them for all campaignâŚ
Canât wait to have them all.
We could argue that they are glass cannons, but thatâs the best part
Yeah I love halftracks, and I love AT halftracks, but them being open top could lead to some quick sniping/MG fire and dead crew, since they wonât be stationed several kilometers away like IRL.
But if we go open top (like M8 already I guess), donât forget about SU-76 and Marder/Nashorn.
If we had half-tracks I would rather like to see infantry transport vehicles. And by the way, more vehicles are not good for the overall gameplay. Just imagine the following:
12 people per team, two are playing tank one flies bomber one flies a fighter. One guy roleplays Vasili Zaitsev one other uses mortars from behind. And atop of this one drives the new half-track because egy not.
At the end less than the half of the team is playing infantry.
Asking for others to play how you feel itâs fun for you huh?.
Iâm sorry to see that you feel offended. It was not my intention, I just have the clear opinion that, while support classes are useful, there should be a healthy balance between support and infantry. And in a FPS I think 50% - 50% is getting too much. Especially if you consider that most of this support units are rather looking for farming infantry with heavy weaponry.
JU-188 punishes gray zone campers
Like the sole APC versions I really want here.
Moscow needs this.
if it will ever come,
( AT halftrack on moscow )
will surely look like this ( and i suspsect for many reasons being ):
this.
( but in winter edition: )
why?
well, first of all, itâs already in the game.
( or⌠was )
it only needs some fixes.
the long cannon version was not invented til 1944.
and⌠well, i donât think i need to add more.
now, this sdkfz 251/10 itâs⌠iâd say capable.
on WT can pen KV1s with the 37 mm, so, on the T50 you will not be able to pen his slope armor, but definitely the tureet.
i mean, those type of vehicles are mostly designed ( or would fit more ) collectible squads.
but itâs up to devs.
second choice, would be the sdkfz.251 / 9
although, it is present on war thunder, but has not been out yet there as well. and no mention in enlisted files⌠so yeah, for moscow, i think only the version above will be introduced. but weâll see.
Yes, and they should use a different slot than tank ones (a bit like motorcycles use their own).
Definite possibility, they opened the door to this with the Night Witches squad in Stalingrad.
Oof. Unnecessary then.
None of those 2 are viable. 37mm canât pen kv, not without APCR (which even if implemented, would still do nothing cause 37mm APCR has 0 post pen) and in the field, canât deal with T50 (the weakspot is too small and glithy) and struggles aainst T28s. Basically useless.
And the short 75 is well, decent, but It doesnât have armor, so nothing great either. Maybe if it got HEAT it could be viable
Honestly, If the long 75mm 251 isnât viable then we need something else with it or with an 88. Maybe the 8,8 cm Flak 37 Sfl. if thatâs historically viable.
debatable, especially depending on the tier used.
as a matchmaker will be a thing, the sdkfz 251/10 would be perfect against t60s, bt7s, T26s, which with a bit of skills, can also kill T28s and T35s AND T50s.
so it would be good for first 5 tanks, and thenk replace it if needed.
regarding itâs efficency;
i know, it can kill latter tanks because i used it, and i have one:
i donât think you used it, because for experience, i killed KV1s with just PzGr 40 ( which are APCR of default amonution ) and it does also have standard APHE.
which, again, can pen every moscow tank up to this point.
it does struggle against the t50 like many tanks, but collectibles squads are mainly for having those said vehicles more than their utility.
look at the stalingrad premium airplane ⌠itâs the definition of it.
so, not too far off with this one. even devs though so, otherwise they wouldnât have introduce it ( unless for some kind of event )
regarding the /9 varient, this one, might be actually be more suited as it would somewhat struggle less, but it has not been introduced in wt yet. so idk.
canât speak too much for it, because i havenât tested it yet. should roughly work like a PZ IV E though.
No, it wonât.
Warthunder and Enlisted have different damage models. In enlisted, solid shot seems to do even less. So even if you penned a T50, youâd just yellow a single crewmember. Even the APHE on the 37mms barely does anything.
And if it gets APHE thenâŚ
Just try the early Panzer 3s. Canât do anything agaisnt a T50 or T28E.
The âreddemingâ factor of those are that theyâre full on tanks and therefore canât be too easily killed by infantry (not the case with this thing) and have 2 coax mg34s (this thing has no mg)
This will be shit vehicle. Rather than this load of bullshit, Iâd prefer to see the troop transport variant with 2 mgs (1 forward and one rear facing) and a rifleman squad included.
Oh, now youâre full on kidding me. The good ting about the pnazer 4 is that it:
- Has rapidly firing 75mm HE as well as a good mg
- can OHK any tank it pens
This thing can do neither. Useless against infantry, useless agianst tanks. Literally the only thing this would have a favourable matchup against is the T26. A T60 would shred it, A BT is faster and nimbler, T28s have too much spread out crew to be taken out quickly by the 37 and T50s would be immortal to it, just like they are agaist all the other 37mm guns.
the APHE should kill on sight.
it is true that shells works differently, but the 37 mm in this game ainât completely utter dysfunctional.
which, the question that i have is, where do you actually shot for not being able to pen a T28?
except⌠the /9 varient has a bloody pz IV weapon on it?
but, this /9 varient, also have a machinegun on top.
so hereâs that.
It doesnât.
Against later soviet tanks, they are.
The issue isnât not penning it, itâs that it has so much spread out crew before oyu kill it with the 37mm, itâll have time to shoot and kill you multiple times.
Sorry, though you were talking about the 37mm one. Which would be useless.
The short 75mm one would just be a worse panzer 4. Not completely dysfunctional like the 37, but still not useful.
Itâs main drawback would be that itâd be vounrable to infantry. And the gun wouldnât be a miracle either.
Would prefer the flakbus or a stug.