I haven’t used the later tier Axis tanks to be fair. I’m mostly from a Russian perspective, maybe I was getting shot by Pz.IV every time I had the T-50 out… But armor didn’t help me a whole lot when I tried it! I can see why you’d wanna go with that instead, though. It gives you some more time to react, & minimizes “im dead but wtf happened” situations.
If you wanna maximize your tank vs. tank combat potential with the 50, I suggest always using it at the longest possible range (where you still see some part of the front). It will alleviate most of the turret speed issues, avoid dangerous infantry, and make the most of your armor (even harder to pen at range, plus you have more control over which part of your tank is visible)… Hope some of that is helpful!
The T-28 has one functionality I forgot about; Full crew of 6 tankers with SMG’s, surprisingly effective method at rushing a control point. It seems a bit silly, but when you think about it, it’s just like an APC with a grenade launcher on top. Stoinks :}
The Pz IV E can penetrate like a very small spot on T-50 near the tracks(OHK tho). And that part does not show up as green in aim marker and is very hard to hit when the T-50 is moving. So, if you were getting killed by a tank, then that is probably a good tanker. I’ve used Pz III E a lot and the T-50 is an upgrade from that. I usually don’t get too close and instead prefers to stay in cover which works great for the T-50.
It’s theoretically invulnerable in the campaign atm as your chances of seeing a Pz IV is very low let alone the III J. The best counter it has are the German planes but no players to use them, sadly.
I supposed one of the issues if this idea does get off the drawing board is:
What measure of balance do we use for balancing unlocks.
We don’t exactly have something like thunderskill yet, let alone individual winrates. We could go by weapon raw stats, but balancing is weird since no nation is made equal. Community polling might be a tad biased.
Then again, the devs may have access to those stats, so eh.
You are comparing the III-E to the T-50, which is comparing a mid-tier tank with the final level Russian campaign unlock. Your German equivalent is the III-J, which has better armor, and more firepower than the T-50.
The Russian equivalent to your III-E is the BT-7, which is faster, less armored, and has more firepower.
This also makes the T-50 the absolute rarest tank of the campaign, if you go by unlock speed, rarer than both the IV and the III-J.
Never compared it. Just wanted Soviet mains crying about its speed and turret to understand that this is what most German tanks feel like. If they can be used, so can the T-50.
It is currently the most common higher tier tank in Moscow due to the BP. I see them more than T-28 these days. A lot has changed since I wrote that tho. The armor angle nerf has made it quite easy to kill T-50.
You did compare them, js. And like you say yourself, people drive them because it’s a BP unlock, not because it’s particularly good. German high tier tanks are straight up better, at least at fighting other tanks. More gun and more armor.
Something that high in campaign shouldn’t be a BP unlock in the first place.
And that’s just BS. It has better armour than any other Soviet tank. It has a gun that can one shot almost all of the tanks it will ever see without even having to aim. It’s anti infantry capabilities is on par with the German tanks. And the chance of Soviets coming across a tank that can kill it is very rare. T-28 is a better tank to take if you are good with tanks. T-50 is best suited for new players or for players who can sacrifice infantry kills for tank kills.
I talked of its similarities. T-50 is what most German tanks feel like minus the survivability.
I never argued on behalf of the BP unlock being high tier. I just stated it’s probably not that impressive to people who’ve actually used the other tanks for comparison. Almost all of them have the same gun, but the 50’s is slower.
You can insist on semantics, but you did compare them. You seem to be basically trying to “win the argument” against my most recent post, while completely ignoring the point I was making. It still stands. German upper tier tanks are stronger than their Russian equivalents in tank vs. tank scenarios on Moscow. Germs don’t need any more help.
If you wanna talk about the T-50, go unlock the III-J first, since that is the proper counterpart. The whole battlepass detour and unreliable information about “which shows up more” belongs in another thread.
The 45mm on every tank that has them, and the buildable AT guns have the capability to penetrate and destroy every german tank frontally. The only time a Russian gun will have to actually aim at a weakpoint is if they’re using a 76mm shrapnel shell, or the 20mm TnSH AP, because the 45mm has a good amount of HE filling in its AP shells.
But in both cases, they also have excellent anti-infantry firepower.
Now, you can argue for the P4E and P3J having enough power to destroy Russian same-tier tanks, but it’s likewise the same on the receiving end, with Russian tanks possessing additional firepower against infantry targets due to having additional machineguns and better turret traverse.
That and, T-50s infesting Moscow is common because its only requirement is to be halfway through the BP ladder. At around level 30 or so.
