Ammo belts on planes - what's our loadout?

It just occured to me, that i don’t know what mix of ammunition the guns on my planes are firing.

Everyone should be familiar with the problem: You unload all your ammo on an enemy aircraft, landed many hits, even seemingly got the engine a couple of times, but to no avail: The enemy keeps flying undisturbed.
Another time you give off a short burst and the enemy plane is dead or crippled immediately.

We all know planes are way too beefy right now. But where does the huge inconsistency in results come from?
The common answer is hit location. Not all parts of the plane are equally vulnarable. True. Try to hit the engines or the pilot is the prescription. But that explanation alone doesn’t satisfy me.

Isn’t it also possible, that when you give off a burst on a target, the bullets, that actually land on the target were just tracers or something else, that’s not very effective?
Ammo belts can be filled with a mixture of various rounds, that all have varying effects on different parts of a plane: Armour piercing, explosive, incendiary, tracer and multipurpose variations of those.

A big part of WT’s airgame is choosing the right ammo belt. In Enlisted, not only can’t we choose between different belts, we don’t even know what ammo we are using.
Is there any way of finding that out or can someone make an educated guess?

I know for certain that Germany use Potatokanone 2cm, because they cant kill even infantry as good American 50 cal

i believe it uses stock belts in WT, i know that the 75 m3 use stock loadout which is m72 and HE shells

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if a future update introduced improved ammo belt as a high tier upgrade for planes.

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i`ll just add that atm it doesnt really matter untill they fix the damage models.

Just yesterday i was chasing p-38g with bf109, put in him half of my mag + full mag ( he flew into our resupply zone), and i wasnt just shooting in the center, i shot at both engines then focused on left wing, he was smoking so much it was acting a smoke grenade cover, yet he was still flying and maneuvering without problems.

it definitely doesnt take that much shooting in war thunder.

If you read the entire post, you will see, that I asked this question because of the damage models.
Could the types of ammo used maybe contribute to the problem of planes being hard to kill most of the time?

I am not the most experienced pilot in this game, but I would like to add that, from my limited experience, even if there doesn’t appear to be an immediate effect, that does not mean there was no effect. Sometimes, when I am in my IL-2 and I have a bandit tight on my 6 (I think it’s usually an Hs-123, but I am rarely able to see them), and I somehow lose the enemy, (presumably because they ran out of ammunition), I keep flying, but I am definitely not unscathed. It may become a persistent struggle to keep my plane from rolling to one side and to keep the plane under my control in general. I also find myself struggling to maintain my airspeed and altitude. As stated, I do not have much experience so I have yet to feel the frustration of dumping the full load of Yak, Mustang or Bf. 109 into an enemy plane to no effect, but, it is my limited experience from being on the receiving end and a few lucky encounters that the biplanes often encountered in Moscow are apparently made of tissue paper.

As a side note, some of my favorite experiences in a plane are when it has been damaged by enemy fire and I am struggling to keep my bird in the air. In those instances, I am really “coming in on a wing and a prayer”