This is a very bad change if you don’t plan on adding customizable loadouts.
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Ain’t simple for them.
Lol. You ruined some planes.
Poor bf110… wanted to make sure it couldn’t wreck easily your precious t34 in Moscow uh?
This nerf is just bad. Nothing positive here.
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When all campaigns have one side stacked with four man squads sweating balls against a few newbie or extremely bad players who never build a single rally point in hundreds of games, and mostly bots clumping together in a small area, this is the result:
Average planes seem too good, and they get nerfed, and good planes have bad statistics and they get buffed.
Then you have content creators who prefer infantry, and who refuse to counter bombers, because that they have no idea how to make compelling content out of it. So, instead, they complain ad nauseam about bombers while their team is getting wiped by tanks camping outside the combat zone.
Balancing a game based on content creator feedback which is tainted by bias towards what makes their content good, instead of meaningful game balance, is cancer to the health of a game.
I do not play bombers, but players who do and who go after campers in tanks outside the combat zone play a critical role for the team.
Then it is plane spam. There are players who fill their lineup with 3 bombers, and just kamikaze spam.
You then have players who just chase radioman bombers all game, often after they dropped their bombs, while being absolutely useless for their team, and racking up crazy scores, because apparently, destroying a radioman bombers is 10 times more valuable than destroying a player controlled one. And the better is their team at holding the enemy and prolonging the battle, the higher the score these knuckleheads get. This of course, translates to bronze and silver orders.
Here is an easy fix for plane tank/spam:
Disallow tanks to spend more than x amount of time outside the combat zone, on their side. They have to push forward.
Like in warthunder, a certain combat points are required to spawn a plane or tank. The better the armament, the higher the number of points needed. Once you spawn a tank/plane, your points are used, and more points need in order to spawn more vehicles. These points can only be accumulated by playing infantry squads.
You had this mechanic, and you have used in the recent April fools. Instead of messing around with planes which are struggling to be relevant, especially in the hands of an average or new player (which is 95% of the playerbase), address the cause (plane spam), not the effect (by nerfing planes, which have been nerfed quite a lot as it is).
With these changes, I know for a fact that most players who are going to be in these planes are going to also be completely useless for their team. They never know where to drop the bombs, and since the bombs are even more anemic than before, their contribution will just be that: zero.
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Imo the problem is not the strenght of planes but spam of planes.
I can cope with geting blown up from time to time. But not geting blown up all the time.
In fact this applies not only to planes but to literally everything.
I’m not a fun of spam of weak equipment. I’d rather have and face fewer but stronger tools.
i just bring out the jagdpanther and farm T34s i’ve even gotten hate messages from russians on my youtube channel from some of the t34 players lol
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And its SO easy to jump in an aircraft and completely deny the enemy the ability to run CAS too
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I made a typo, I meant Moscow… just woke up…
To such a stupid nerf news.
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“Just change everything back it was fine as it is” is not specific enough?
Ok
Normandy
Allied planes: these are the only thing going for allies which is a sufficient counter for the german tanks. You are fundamentally changing the balance with these changes on high level.
- p51: the planes are now functionally the same for ground support. Please revert the nerf of 500lb bombs.
- p47: this was the best thing the allies had. Super high level required - so let it also be decently powerful. It was fine, change it back.
Axis planes:
2x Rockets is a joke. Please change back.
Also ju88 is fine, change that back too.
In general there’s no point in listing all the planes- they were fine
- Yak-1 — 2х FAB-50sv → 2х FAB-100sv
You can keep that change if you want.
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well they are explosion spamfest when 2 teams are full of veterans, specially if they have premium accounts… i still have flashbacks from even fight event from year ago…
plane balance wasnt the problem, lack of second vehicle slot for f2p players was. many times players cant counter planes easily cause they have tank in vehicle position.
when you include stats of brain dead players, they make sense. in every match you have those players that perform worse than bots.
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Any chance of doing something with the plane gunner aim, awareness and reaction speed? Funny how you went straight to nerfing the loadouts of bombers when you can get shot down without your gunners opening fire on the enemy plane that’s shooting at you.
Doesn’t make sence, since there’s still limit 1+1 planes per team.
I am of the opinion that Normandy (Without this update) would and should be the maximum point of comparison for aircraft payloads, with every other plane eventually reaching Normandy levels of CAS, and no more.
From the looks of things, CAS has been tuned down with Berlin CAS as a point of reference, which, while still more powerful than CAS from other campaigns, still feel a bit lacking.
Oh wow, I just realized…
You fools also nerfed Tunisia Stuka, for no reason whatsoever. Not like Axis Tunisia air force was already ruined to start with.
Again, stupid move.
Yet another useless nerf NOBODY asked for, at all.
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Plane was fine, starting from moscow and ending to berlin they become slowly powerful every time the war period go forward, and this is true for all the faction: equipment,gun,tank ecc… so half their kill power dont have much sense in this optic and make them out of place in thath campaign future BR,
so idk maybe this change is needed for stop plane spam? Even if is it there are better solution for stop plane spam than nerf them to the ground, whats next nerf tank because they can shoot from distance? Nerf knife because are OP in melee?
Look if this nerf is needed for something we are ok with it but seriusly wy is needed?
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I’d honestly rather that if their intention was to rebalance CAS, they should have introduced more appropriate vehicles instead of unique vehicles per unique loadout.
Give us custom loadouts, but tie the more powerful loadouts to level progression, or something.
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p38+p47+2 jumbos+arty strikes+explosion grenades spam (well wp now). include ju188 and whatever CAS fighter germans have with 2 tigers and this is HE spam fast.
Hello. I collected preliminary feedback and passed it on to the developers.
Fair point!
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I have not seen a WP for quite some time actually, yet people still crying about it here, lol. I guess it’s some kind of standard here.