About a plan of finishing americans's tier5 techtree

So here is my thought. currently in pacific there is a machine gun I think the name is Johanson 1941 mg. Change its characteristics to rifle. Like spread, weights and put it in the position matching fg42-1(maybe with more recoil) and use the silver verson of t20(I believe its t20e2)compair with fg42-2. as for m2. remake the iron sight to a usable state and categorize it as ar. match mp43/stg44

A rifleman uses a machine gun.
LOL
Maybe you don’t even know the definition of a weapon.

what m2c iron sight should have been

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By that definition fg42II is a lmg too, so is avt40 and every select fire rifle germany and ussr has

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He knows it’s a machine gun, his real point is that the u.s. doesn’t have equivalents to the majority of germany’s tier 5. Which is a pretty big concern for u.s. mains. We dont have a tank to counter tiger 2. It was meant to go up against IS2 and not u.s. tanks. Thats the biggest concern of mine at the moment for tier balance. Next up is assault rifles. Again we dont have anything, i know DF said we’ll get an engineer squad with them but not sure if they will actually deliver one for u.s.

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well he is the one who came up with the idea to limite defender’s manpower. he is the one who keep telling people americans will not matchmaking with the german in tier5. And I said this many time in his qq group(like a chatting only discord) and he just respond with “that is a mg”

but t20e2 has not come yet.
If it existed, these things would not happen

DF said that they are engineers who can carry assault weapons, but historically, the WW2 Western Allies did not have assault rifles with intermediate power ammunition. SO, they can only join Enlisted with submachine guns.

SO?
What makes you think the current 5BR Western Allies can fight against the 5BR Western Axis Powers?

I recall DF specifically saying assault rifles, not assault weapons. I took that as meaning they can only use assault rifles and not SMGs like assaulter squads. I’m excited to see what they come up with for U.S. if they do intend on giving them an actual assault rifle, or if we’ll be an exception and can use SMGs.

Until we get Pershings, 500lb’ers

Standard Pershing won’t change anything. It would be as helpless as the 76 sherman vs Tiger II H given that 90mm AP cannot go through Tiger II H armor.

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We have positives and negatives, I don’t think it will be that bad. We still have better machine guns, better SMGs (trade off is Germany gets ARs, but we still have drum Tommy), better planes. The King Tiger will be a pain but it can always be bombed.

That said, we do need a new tank that’s not copy paste. Pershing, Super Pershing, Jackson, or M4A3 76 (Easy Eight) will suffice

German have mp717 and kiraly, which is way more usable than drum thompson, german also have better planes, the berlin fw190 d12 and normandy ju188. German fg42 II will just dominate close range m2c also.

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Kiraly is really good yes, forgot about that one to be honest. MP717 is better than drum Tommy for sure but it’s being removed and will become a rare sight.

Nope, fighter planes as a whole have very little effect on overall balance. And for the attack planes, P47 is 110% better than the Ju 188 because it doubles as a fighter, so it can easily outmaneuver and shoot down the 188 or any other plane.

Some may argue that the P47 is better for attacking ground targets, but I disagree, I think they’re both equally effective.

No it won’t, the M2 carbine is perfectly suited for close range. The FG42’s close quarter performance is severely lacking because of its high recoil and small magazine.

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U.s. tier 5 is on par with axis tier 4, we definitely don’t have better smgs. We have some good ones but not on par. Along with everything else axis tier 5.

I can get behind this.
I would only add that if this happens, DF needs to give a possibility to change M2C to T20 rifles free of charge for people who already owned the M2C.

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MP717 I have stacks of them ready to be sold after enlisted market place release, you will see 717 regularly in high tier match with whales trying to get advantage in anyway possible(tunisia flamer squad being a prime example). even with kiraly its ten time better than tommy with unusable sight.

Have you use the fw d12 in berlin? it’s the best axis plane and its 30mm cannon are so good that a skill pilot won’t need rocket to kill tank, but good couple of well place 30mm shoots from the top. with bombs its definitely a bonus, plus you mention it being a fighter so of course maneuver wise its better tha p47 and equal to p51, the top two american planes, and ju188 is just unmatch with its 6 bomb nuking the beach of normandy, and if they with the backseat gunners it will even be better.

You don’t sound like you have use the fg42 II, its a fg42 with no recoil, magazine size doesnt matter when it dominate mid and long range with high damage while your small pp m2c can’t do shit but a hit marker experience.

You don’t know that. That’s pure speculation, and you can’t base arguments on speculation.

I already said Kiraly was better than Tommy. And saying the sight is unusable is just being dramatic.

I already answered you on that. Are you not paying attention? You’re just regurgitating the same argument after already being disproven.

Haha nope. No auto firing, full power rifle is going to have “no recoil”

The M2 is basically a better SMG, you know, the weapon class that is designed to excel in CQC. What you’re saying is not just blatantly false, it’s rather dramatized.

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yes this is what you said:

but I counter with:

fw190 d12 is not an average fighter plane, it’s an attacker plane in enlisted same as p47(actually use attacker pilot instead of fighter pilot just like p47), and it does great in cas with its 30mm cannon and bombs. It has higher skill celling than p47 but once you master it, it’s a better plane than p47.

press H, only advantage of auto firing is Ai do better with it, but ai are dumb and they will never do all the fighting for you even if you give them mg42 250rnd belt. And m2c have poor damage drop over range. as a human player I would rather have a battle rifle with high damage, even in close range it out dps the m2c, and 20 round is not really the problem since it take less round to kill and kill way more fast than a SMG.

and yes you said it yourself, m2c is just a SMG, not a battle rifle, they have different purpose:

The battle rifle for American is T20E1, T20E2 and M14, so not sure why the Americans got a SMG(m2c) to go against axis battle rifle(Fg42 I and II) in enlisted. SMG and Battle rifle have different purpose, and Fg is a better battle rifle than m2c.