A Straight-Pull Rifle For Japan: Dutch Mannlicher M.95 Chambered in 7.7mm Arisaka

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Hey everyone! This is a suggestion for Japan to have a straight-pull rifle at BR II, so all nations can have a straight-pull bolt-action rifle option at BR 2:

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The Japanese empire captured many Dutch weapons in the Dutch East Indies, including Dutch Mannlicher M1895s. Many captured Mannlichers were converted to accept the 7.7x58mm Arisaka ammunition, and were used in combat during World War II.

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Damage: 22.6 (26.0)
Rate of Fire: 66 (76)
Rounds per magazine: 5 (en-bloc clip)
Bayonet? No

This suggestion is paired with a suggestion to buff the Ross Rifle Mk.III in the Allies tree, to also give it a 66 (76) rate of fire. I’m looking forward to your thoughts in the comments!

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Don’t play Japan that much, but I don’t see a reason why not to add it. (Also hope your getting better biggus Chinus)

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I’d like to point out some issues. First of all, even if the Japanese received a straight pull rifle the desire that “all nations can have a straight-pull bolt-action rifle option at BR 2” will still be incomplete thanks to the Soviets missing one.

The second, more important issue, is that the Dutch Mannlicher isn’t even a straight pull in the first place. In fact if you look at those images you posted you can see that it operates using a regular turn bolt action.

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I did some digging, looks like you are correct!

The “Mannlicher” name for the Dutch Mannlicher is more of a simplification, since it’s an amalgamation of the Mannlicher en-bloc clip, a Dutch action, and some other non-domestic features.

I guess with this in mind, I’m not sure what Japan could get instead.

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It looks like the best alternative would be one of the following:

  • a Mannlicher Rifle captured in China
  • a Mannlicher Rifle purchased by Japan
  • a Schmidt-Rubin purchased by Japan

All of which are hypothetical, as far as I’m aware. The first option seems the most plausible, and there were quite a few variants.

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I don’t thinking that’s a straight pull it’s more like how the Mannlicher M93 is

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Yes, @Spiderkingthe10-live has already corrected me.

I’ll make a post later, discussing adding a Mannlicher captured from China instead.

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Okay I didn’t see that tho I would love to see more M-block clip type firearms in the game

Also 22 dmg seems really low especially when .303 is also 7.7

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I took the damage from the Type 99 (Early)

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That makes sense tho weird bc 7.7mm from japan is actually bigger

7.7x58mm arisaka
Vs
7.7x56mmR Enfield

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@Slakrrrrrr I have not researched enough but apparently Nagant 1887 rifle was straight pull (and apparently was known as 3.5 line rifle ) it was competed against mosin 3line rifle (3 line and 3.5 line are old russian measurements that are used for ammo) anyhow that could be it but like I said it needs more research and also specifically speaking only 1887 rifle was straight pull model 1890 Nagant used mosins bolt .

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Or we could just do the lazy route.

I don’t have a straight pull for Japan though, but there are bunch of Thai rifles that could be added for them.

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I wouldn’t say that there is a need for this (considering that the 2 BR has the Type Otsu), and I would still like the fastest-firing bolt-action rifle in Japan to be a domestically developed rifle, and not a trophy.

However, I will note that in the Dutch East Indies the Japanese definitely captured a shortened 6.5 mm Madsen machine gun.

I can also assume that Dutch copies of the Lewis gun could also be used by the Japanese, considering that they already had experience with the Type 92 machine guns (a Japanese copy of the Lewis gun).

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Type 92 could be an event machine gun squad like the soviet Lewis gun squad. But not before it’s add to the US/British TT

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I see, very interesting. I’ll take it into account :sweat_smile:.

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Type Otsu is strong for what it is - a semi-auto rifle with no recoil, but they have very weak BR 2 bolt-action rifles (the best one is a B 1 rifle: the Type 38 Rifle). I think most people would conclude that with the change to ADS consistency, straight-pulls are now the BR 2 rifle meta.

I think for now, the best option is the Mannlicher 1888/24. It’s rechambered for 7.92x57mm, and FN supposedly had some that it sold to China, which would then be likely captured by the Japanese.

Aside from that, Japan could just get something in 7.7mm with 63 RPM base, but it would be hard to justify the ADS hold.

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