A long list of recommendations for vehicle replacement in the campaign

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I have a suggestion for the vehicles in each campaign.

First, the Moscow Campaign.
The fact that the Panzer3B exists in the Axis.
It is questionable that the Panzer3B, which is a prototype of only about 20 units, is being addressed as a competitor to the T-26.
I propose to replace Panzer3E from campaign level 12 to level 8 and put Panzer3F in the level 12 slot.

Next is the Normandy Campaign.
Regarding the Coalition’s M4A2, M4A3E2 and M10 and the Axis’ Panzer4J.
The M4A2 is fine as far as performance goes, but I think the M4A1 is more appropriate for the US Army’s equipment. To follow up on that.
I think it would be preferable to replace the M4A3E2 with M4A1[76] or M10, and the M10 with M18.
I think it would be better to replace the Axis Panzer4J with the Panzer4G, although the armor and gun power would be reduced, so that the performance difference with the Allied tanks would be equal.

I’m particularly concerned about the Tunisia campaign.
Despite the fact that the campaign is called “Tunisia,” the British and American camps are not neatly divided and confused between the former and the latter, not only in terms of infantry but also in terms of vehicles and aircraft equipment. [The same goes for Germany and Italy.]
In particular, the vehicles are so far only things that would appear from the Italian invasion of Africa as of September 1940 to before the Battle of El Alamein, and the aircraft are SBDs of the US Navy.
The Axis also addresses the C. 202.EC [Esperimento Cannoni], an aircraft that seems to be a prototype.
In terms of balancing the vehicles, does the management intend to produce a range from AB41 to Tiger 1, or is there a plan to replace it?
I think, for now, it would be better to replace the Coalition’s initial vehicle with the Crusader mk2 and put the Daimler or Valentine mk1, Grant, and Sherman II in that order.
For the Axis, the initial vehicle should be AB 41 or M14/41, and the next vehicle should be M15/42 or 75/32 M41, Panzer3J1, Panzer4G? I’m not sure, but I think so.
As for aircraft, both sides will equip their fighters with 50kg bombs, and the coalition will equip theirs with 50kg bombs.
I think it would be good for the Allies to separate the British from the Americans by changing the first attack aircraft slot from the SBD to the Blenheim Mk IV or Beaufort Mk VIII, and assigning the SBD or A-36 to the second attack aircraft slot.
For the Axis, the Ju 87 R-2(IT) or S.M.79 should be in the first attack slot, and the Ju 87 D-3 in the second.
I think you should keep the Re 2000 in the fighter slot, replace it with MC.202, and the Bf 109F-4 in the second fighter slot.

I have more to say about weapons, but it’s too long, so I’ll skip it. Anyone have any suggestions?

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M4a2 is fine when it comes to history, although by 1944 it was determined that the M4a3 was the most preferable model of Sherman (hence why all experimental add-ons were done to it) so of anything, M4a3 should replace the M4a2, not M4a1.

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Don’t think it’s a good idea to remove jumbo without removing panther since it’s the only tank that can somewhat resist the kwk42.

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Remove both. Jumbo is ugly and makes tank play shitty. Panther is somewhat pretty… but makes tank play shitty.

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Its actually kinda funny, before the Panther I had made suggestions on replacing the Jumbo with something else. That way we didn’t incite an arms race in that campaign. However the Panther instead got added in, without a good solid counter, which means the cycle continues.
Because if you add something reliable enough to kill it, then people will want a counter to that. And it just goes on and on…

The other problem now though, is removal of either will create even more outrage to those whom have grinded to it, and those whom play and love their Jumbos when they are free from Panthers.

They backed themselves into a corner with that tank, and there really isn’t a path out without creating a lot of friction on the playerbase.

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True…
It doesn’t hurt me that much anyway because I love light tanks in Normandy. When a jumbo shitter appears and grey zone as usual, I just go infantry. Same for panthers… but they are so very rare compared to fat jumbo. It’s a joy hunting the big cat like a big game hunter with tnt thought!

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I would say panther is much worse since jumbo does have a downside since it’s shit against other tanks, rightfully so, while panther has nothing bad it can do

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I’d say the opposite… jumbo is worse because it’s unlocked at lvl 20, which is quite early compared to the late game panther. I see PLENTY of jumbos when I play Normandy, but the panther is a rarity. And as a very late game vehicle, I can understand why it’s much better.

In the end, jumbo and panther make tank play not fun. A dumb fat wall slowly rolling ahead of a doom gun grey zoning. Pretty shitty if you enjoy any other vehicles…

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If I were to replace those two tanks it would be the Sherman 105 and jadgpanzer 4 to try and stick with the theme of American tanks are better for anti infantry while German tanks are better at anti tank; though I wonder wonder how many players are forced to use jumbo as a safe measure in case of a panther does show up…I know I am one of them I would rather use the m4a2

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Ah yeah I forget many only have 1 tank slot… I filled mines with light tanks: with Rhino, Chaffee, and for Germans the lil pz3 premium with long barrel (it’s really like a light tank at this point) and the pz4j, because there’s so many jumbo spam I need at least something if I really wish to tank. I prefer the tiny pz3 thought. Light tank play is really fun.

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Much like what Joe says, the Panther is deadlier, absolutely. But youbare up against them much sooner in my experience (NA server).
Almost every battle I’m in as Axis there is a Jumbo. Where as the Panther I’ve only killed a dozen times or so.

Its a very late unlock and with a good majority of players being F2P it is rarer.
There is also the Premium Jumbo, no premium Panther.

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Don’t give them ideas

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Jesus! That gave me shivers… :fearful:

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Sad part is that they would do it

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It would be too similar to the one already here… they’d probably add the KT straight ahead and call it a day :fearful:

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Uhh, Pz IV J premium squad says hello.

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Sure, there’s nothing wrong with the M4A3 if it’s the best and can be changed to that, but if the tank model used in Enlisted is an appropriation from Warthunder, then there’s no M4A3 [75mm] model… M4A3[105mm] type and M4A3E8 exist, but for some reason I can’t find M4A3[75mm] type. The diesel version of the M4A2 is familiar to the US Marines or the Soviet Army, though.

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As far as I know, the M4a2, M4a3 and M4a4 all outwardly look the same, the only difference being the engine, which War Thunder has the sounds for in the M4a3 (W) 76. I could be wrong though.

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