A BAR could fit BR2

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Colt Monitor
FN Mle 1930
Browning Automatic Rifle M1918
Browning Automatic Rifle M1918A1
Browning Automatic Rifle M1918A2
Chatellerault FM 24/29
Browning wz. 1928

lacking
Colt Automatic Machine Rifle, Model of 1919
Colt Automatic Machine Rifle, Model of 1925
Kg m/21 model
Model Kg m/37
1932 Jungle BAR

Lot Detail - (N) TRULY STELLAR AND SUPURB ORIGINAL COLT COMMERCIAL .... The Colt Automatic Machine Rifle, Model of 1919 Colt Automatic Machine Rifle, Model of 1919

Colt Model 1925. Colt Automatic Machine Rifle, Model of 1925

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LMG - Kg m/1921

Fabrique Nationale (Company) Product List Model Kg m/37

Recreating the 1932 BAR jungle carbine : r/gunsmithing 1932 BAR jungle carbine

When loaded with a full 20-round magazine, it weighed just over twenty pounds. The original BAR developed for World War I was designed to fire either semiautomatically or fully automatically. A later model, adopted in 1940 and designated the M1918A2, eliminated the M1918’s semiautomatic fire capability. Instead, it had two rates of fully automatic fire that the gunner could select: 300-450 rounds per minute or 500-650 rounds per minute. The M1918A2 also had a bipod and flash suppressor at the muzzle of the weapon and a hinged buttplate that folded over the butt of the stock. When the buttplate was raised, it protruded to the rear and over the shooter’s shoulder; its purpose was to keep the rifle firmly on the shooter’s shoulder to help control automatic fire. The original M1918 had neither a buttplate nor a bipod.

A BAR with a slower rate of fire or semi automatic mode could be fun at BR2 as filling a demand many people have had. surprisingly with the many, many BAR based rifles we still lack a few variants five of the 12 well produced.

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The belt-fed Browning, the Kulsprutegevär m/1937 belt-fed prototype ... Kulsprutegevär m/1937 belt-fed prototype

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because its any worse of an idea of moving an ar from br5 to br3

There is no reason to have 3 BAR’s in BR 3. Just give the BAR 1918 or the BAR 1918A1 some nerfs and drop it down to BR 2.

The Jungle BAR looks like it would be neat for an Event Squad.

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Already happened.

Lahti or RPK is realistically what BAR 1918 could be after some nerfs.

As mentioned here:

It’s better to have actually some variety than several meaningless versions of the same weapon on the same BR.

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Except this is the problem. I prefer the 1918 in BR3, as it has the best aim down sight speed in trade for some other stats. It also has different sights which I also prefer
Just “nerf” (which would ruin the whole point of the BARs to make the fair in BR2) and put weapons down a tier. It defeats the whole purpose of those weapons that are already well balanced for their current tier. We already have plenty of BR2 MGs for Allies to use.

Having 3 BARs in BR3 is a bit much honestly. If you want the best stats you take the A2 or for the aim speed the 1918 with no real reason to choose the A1.

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ok, it will end now in jap hands as event one :smiley:

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BAR should be BR2. Tbh the Bren is a way better gun.

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no

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The Bren is a better LMG, but the BAR is a better AR.

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They just need to folder at least one of the BAR’s.

You’re saying a 400/450 bpm would not fit at br2
Or 600 with 10 round mag

There is no reason to keep three BAR’s at BR3. No one uses the base BAR 1918 because of it’s higher recoil, and to be honest, I don’t think needs any buffing to make it level two compatible. In fact, drop it to level two and give the Soviet RPK 1943 a 20 round Magazine and those two would be very comparable MG’s. The Allies also have the Colt Monitor squad and the WAR which further saturates level three. I would say drop the WAR to level two, but I think their would be more push back towards that, and the Allies need a level two TT weapon. However the WAR as a BP weapon at level two ensures that not everyone will have one, and the Allies would be limited to only having five WAR’s in level two, which would put them in the same boat as the RPK which at the moment is limited to four. BTW, besides adding the 20 round Mag to the RPK, I would also make it TT.

Someone earlier had commented that there will never be a BAR in level two, well, I don’t think a lot of people at one time thought that a Thompson would be in Level two, and now if you buy the Allied Rider cycle squad, you can have three Thompson’s in level one, so a BAR in level two is more then conceivable. NOTE, I did not buy the Rider squad, so I have no level one Thompsons. :rofl:

RPK vs BAR

The base BAR ROF is 600 before maxing, so if it were to be buffed drop it’s maxed base ROF to 550 and maxed at 600, add a 20 round magazine to the RPK 1943, then add them both to the level two TT’s. I wouldn’t even be opposed to dropping the Base BAR ROF to 500 and maxing it at 550 or 570. Along with this, I would lower the horizontal recoil of the MG13 as for me that seems to be its biggest inefficiency.

I play all factions, over 2,000 games with the Germans, over 1,950 with the Allies and about 750 with the Soviets, mostly level two so I have no faction in the game to shill for. Adding a BAR to level two is not a death nail for Germany, if it was, I wouldn’t support dropping the BAR since I play more German level two then Allies, my Allies is mostly level three and five. Adding the RPK was not a death nail for Germany, it was just a better MG then the Madsen.

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Br 2 bar???

are you crazy rigth?

you are literally bringing a literal SF to low br

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1918a1 and a2 should stay at 3. There’s no need for the 1918 to stay at 3—it has higher recoil and worse stats in other aspects

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How about no? We don’t need more power creep after Tommy and Uragan. MG13 is barely usable and Germany has not a single smg besides BP Suomi and Premium MP719 that could compete against the power creep, f2p players are completely screwed.

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1918 is way stronger than MG13 so why would it go there? Same can be said about Thompson that is better than ALL German smgs no matter if GO, Event, TT or Premium. Fix Germany first and then we can talk about 1918 getting into BR2.

Shouldn’t it be compared to the ZB26 instead of the MG13?

BAR reigns victorious again

And i wouldn’t exactly call that ZB-26 rof as a big advantage only at very close range it matters 660 rpm is perfect in most situations. And it’s not like crappy german smgs can compete.

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