.30 Carbine Options For Allies at BR 2 Through 4

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Since the Allies options for BR 3 and 4 SMGs are only .45 ACP Thompson variants, I figured that some SMG/AR weapons for tiers 2-4 could be added. In general, these would sacrifice the sheer close-range damage output of the Thompsons for higher muzzle velocity and damage at distance.

BR 2: T29 SMG

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Damage at 10m: 7.3 (8.8)
Rate of Fire: 410 (470)
Magazine capacity: 30

Essentially an M3 Grease gun chambered in .30 Carbine. Not much to explain here.

BR 3: Woodhull Light Rifle

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Damage at 10m: 7.3 (8.8)
Rate of Fire: 550 (630)
Magazine capacity: 20

One of the competing designs of the light rifle program, which resulted in the adoption of the M1 Carbine. In the first iteration of testing in May/June 1941, select-fire capabilities were desirable, but this was dropped by the 2nd iteration of light rifle tests in September 1941.

The Woodhull Light Rifle weighed 5 lbs. 13 1/2 ozs, had a cyclic rate of 550 rounds per minute, and was designed with 5, 10, 15, 20, and 35 round magazines.

BR 4: Auto-Ordnance Light Rifle

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Damage at 10m: 7.3 (8.8)
Rate of Fire: 600 (690)
Magazine capacity: 20

One of the competing designs of the light rifle program, which resulted in the adoption of the M1 Carbine. In the first iteration of testing in May/June 1941, select-fire capabilities were desirable, but this was dropped by the 2nd iteration of light rifle tests in September 1941.

The Auto-Ordnance Light Rifle weighed 5 lbs. 5 ozs, had a cyclic rate of 600 rounds per minute, and was designed with a 20 round magazine.

BR 4 Alternative: Garand Light Rifle

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Damage at 10m: 7.3 (8.8)
Rate of Fire: 700 (810)
Magazine capacity: 20

One of the competing designs of the light rifle program, which resulted in the adoption of the M1 Carbine. In the first iteration of testing in May/June 1941, select-fire capabilities were desirable, but this was dropped by the 2nd iteration of light rifle tests in September 1941.

The Garand Light Rifle weighed just below 5 lbs, had a cyclic rate of 700-900 rounds per minute, and was designed with 5, 10, 20, and 50 round magazines.

Stats such as recoil and dispersion and SMG/AR designation are of course open to the interpretation of the developers, to make these guns balanced for their respective tiers. I’m looking forward to the community’s thoughts and feedback!

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Sound good to me

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None of these would fit the term SMG, all are carbines and all are quasi AR and there was tons of carbines at the light rifle program and this reminds me my first ever topic I created in forum had a lot of guns from light rifle program also another admission which would be funny if DF added, would be Thompson Light Rifle which again was in the light rifle program
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it fires .30 cal like .30 cal thompson but has longer barrel and also it is based on M1921 thompson unlike .30 cal thompson which was based on M1 and also has 30 round mag (beside standard 20 round from light rifle program)

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If they add any of these they should also add like a “Light rifle” category making them work like the VG 1-5 and PCCs, at least the semi-auto ones.

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All of them are semi-auto and full-auto, light rifle trial had 2 phase , first phase required that all of the participants have fire selector with ability to fire automatically and semi-automatic, second phase was just semi-auto.
Some of the guns second patterns were not so different than first pattern( except now they were only semi-automatic)but some had huge changes like Garand light rifle , second pattern of that gun had magazine feeding from under the gun rather than from top
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