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So, your data is irrelevant then because it can’t be proven. And the data that you were “Working” with was wrong to begin with since it gave the misinformation that you then tried to pass off as fact.

Even with casual players playing “few matches” you’d still have more of a player base then what the game has. So your claim that this game has 1.8 million players is still false.

This is last years data not this years. You can already tell from my last post that the numbers are not looking good. Hence my statement about the player base that you claim is 1.8 million is false.

And we should just trust YOUR numbers that YOU throw into YOUR database as fact? I’d be more pressed to believe a site that “makes up numbers” then your data. Where is your proof that they make up numbers? Or is that in some database that only you have access to?

Do these lists post who banned them? No, they don’t. Am I supposed to remember ever person that I turned in through their slow service in game? No, I’m not. Also, the ones that I turned in on the report website like every other post that is made hardly gets answered. So, if the devs don’t care to answer with at least a “We are looking into it” than why should I bother. Not to mention it’s kind of weird for you to be so into getting someone banned due to cheating that you look at a list just so you can be like “Yeah, I got’em”.

I know my way around an FPS which is why I point out so many problems with this game in other posts since its so far behind in comparison to a lot of the games out there today. And obviously if you would have read my past posts in this thread, me commenting about the replay system being slow and having an abnormal video file system that forces you to watch replays while being in the game client you can say that I’ve used it quite a few times.

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you can easily scrap data yourself. here is link to json file with information Gaijin Entertainment - Single Sign On

i have collected data from august till november and have it in my database. if you want proof, these are your battles in that time period. time is for CET/CEST time zone (GMT+2)

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366032115286756823 volokolamsk_fortification_inv Fortified district ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-08-28 01:26:56 2024-08-28 01:53:54 00:27:04 1724801216 1724802834
366042242819641551 pacific_gavutu_inv Gavutu North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-08-28 02:06:12 2024-08-28 02:27:11 00:21:02 1724803572 1724804831
366065847959902099 normandy_coast_ruins_inv Ruins of Vaux South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-08-28 03:38:13 2024-08-28 04:07:10 00:29:04 1724809093 1724810830
366076057097165417 normandy_aerodrome_inv Airfield West ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-08-28 04:17:37 2024-08-28 04:49:44 00:32:16 1724811457 1724813384
366358214973701627 normandy_village_inv La Perelle Village North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-08-28 22:32:28 2024-08-28 22:47:53 00:15:32 1724877148 1724878073
366371920214344486 tunisia_oasis_inv Oasis North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-08-28 23:25:44 2024-08-28 23:50:46 00:25:09 1724880344 1724881846
366400726560001091 tunisia_city_bomb Al Har ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-08-29 01:17:19 2024-08-29 01:43:00 00:25:47 1724887039 1724888580
366725589296364726 pacific_guadalcanal_inv Guadalcanal Coast East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-08-29 22:18:01 2024-08-29 22:38:57 00:21:02 1724962681 1724963937
366776845436079559 normandy_village_inv La Perelle Village North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-08-30 01:36:57 2024-08-30 01:59:17 00:22:27 1724974617 1724975957
366789425395290441 normandy_power_inv_counter Power plant North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-08-30 02:25:52 2024-08-30 02:47:14 00:21:31 1724977552 1724978834
367542964522544835 volokolamsk_forestry_inv_counter The Maisky Forestry North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-01 03:10:05 2024-09-01 03:27:56 00:17:58 1725153005 1725154076
367548457785716867 pacific_vertical_inv Alligator Creek South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-01 03:31:23 2024-09-01 03:54:31 00:23:16 1725154283 1725155671
367890947067871077 volokolamsk_fortification_dom Fortified district ({mission_type}) domination 2024-09-02 01:40:18 2024-09-02 02:03:57 00:23:46 1725234018 1725235437
367897402403717446 rzhev_city_conf Rzhev: Left Bank ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-09-02 02:05:16 2024-09-02 02:47:45 00:42:38 1725235516 1725238065
368659750507798680 normandy_omer_inv Omer North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-04 03:23:55 2024-09-04 03:57:04 00:33:21 1725413035 1725415024
369028258701824776 volokolamsk_quarry_inv Quarry South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-05 03:13:31 2024-09-05 03:43:47 00:30:21 1725498811 1725500627
369698471168550564 volokolamsk_city_dom Pokrovskoe City ({mission_type}) domination 2024-09-06 22:34:23 2024-09-06 22:57:33 00:23:17 1725654863 1725656253
370451799842411809 tunisia_oasis_inv_counter Oasis South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-08 23:17:43 2024-09-08 23:35:31 00:17:57 1725830263 1725831331
370461540828240015 normandy_aerodrome_inv Airfield West ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-08 23:55:23 2024-09-09 00:24:31 00:29:14 1725832523 1725834271
370803557663982036 normandy_aerodrome_inv_counter Airfield East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-09 22:02:40 2024-09-09 22:22:45 00:20:11 1725912160 1725913365
370814617204770223 rzhev_city_inv_counter Rzhev: Left Bank ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-09 22:45:32 2024-09-09 23:20:19 00:34:54 1725914732 1725916819
370859332109292217 ardennes_forest_inv Hürtgen Forest ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-10 01:39:11 2024-09-10 02:03:31 00:24:28 1725925151 1725926611
370884272984381795 tunisia_fortress_inv Fortress East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-10 03:15:57 2024-09-10 03:33:10 00:17:20 1725930957 1725931990
371172409455392369 pacific_gavutu_bomb_aerodrome_counter Gavutu airfield South ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-09-10 21:53:52 2024-09-10 22:23:39 00:29:51 1725998032 1725999819
371186771826031494 tunisia_oasis_inv_counter Oasis South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-10 22:49:45 2024-09-10 23:10:26 00:20:47 1726001385 1726002626
371212395600921431 pacific_gavutu_dom Gavutu ({mission_type}) domination 2024-09-11 00:29:12 2024-09-11 00:48:12 00:19:06 1726007352 1726008492
371227050029336411 normandy_village_inv_counter La Perelle Village South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-11 01:26:04 2024-09-11 01:49:03 00:23:06 1726010764 1726012143
371239346520705747 pacific_guadalcanal_conf Guadalcanal Coast ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-09-11 02:13:43 2024-09-11 02:34:44 00:21:06 1726013623 1726014884
371239531204299483 tunisia_cave_inv Kahif cave village East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-11 02:14:39 2024-09-11 02:46:23 00:31:52 1726013679 1726015583
371490864100545639 volokolamsk_grove_inv_counter Birch Grove East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-11 18:29:38 2024-09-11 18:49:48 00:20:16 1726072178 1726073388
371496168385156856 pacific_gavutu_inv Gavutu North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-11 18:50:23 2024-09-11 19:16:04 00:25:47 1726073423 1726074964
371503392520149598 normandy_village_inv La Perelle Village North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-11 19:18:22 2024-09-11 19:32:38 00:14:23 1726075102 1726075958
371576364014516254 pacific_new_georgia_caves_inv_counter Munda Trail: Shimizu Hill ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-12 00:01:36 2024-09-12 00:30:20 00:28:51 1726092096 1726093820
371929015189284468 stalingrad_entrance_conf Tractor Plant ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-09-12 22:50:01 2024-09-12 23:24:25 00:34:32 1726174201 1726176265
371930797600712455 tunisia_farm_bomb Al Jabal Farm ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-09-12 22:56:48 2024-09-12 23:28:16 00:31:33 1726174608 1726176496
372279879657658460 stalingrad_entrance_inv_counter Tractor Plant West ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-13 21:31:29 2024-09-13 21:55:15 00:23:53 1726255889 1726257315
372288907678915744 ardennes_forest_inv Hürtgen Forest ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-13 22:06:45 2024-09-13 22:42:08 00:35:31 1726258005 1726260128
372301526292832838 volokolamsk_fortification_dom Fortified district ({mission_type}) domination 2024-09-13 22:55:41 2024-09-13 23:26:25 00:30:52 1726260941 1726262785
372310919386310141 pacific_new_georgia_caves_inv Munda Trail: Bibilo Hill ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-13 23:31:52 2024-09-13 23:53:11 00:21:24 1726263112 1726264391
372635429935359457 ardennes_height_conf Dominant height ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-09-14 20:31:19 2024-09-14 20:50:39 00:19:27 1726338679 1726339839
372635734878037520 normandy_aerodrome_inv_counter Airfield East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-14 20:32:31 2024-09-14 20:52:17 00:19:53 1726338751 1726339937
372641649048004927 pacific_vertical_assault Alligator Creek ({mission_type}) assault 2024-09-14 20:55:28 2024-09-14 21:15:27 00:20:07 1726340128 1726341327
372651183875403365 tunisia_oasis_dom Oasis ({mission_type}) domination 2024-09-14 21:32:27 2024-09-14 22:03:41 00:31:21 1726342347 1726344221
373035626398111646 volokolamsk_grove_assault Birch Grove ({mission_type}) assault 2024-09-15 22:24:19 2024-09-15 22:52:14 00:28:03 1726431859 1726433534
373047836990135465 pacific_new_georgia_conf New Georgia ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-09-15 23:11:40 2024-09-15 23:28:49 00:17:16 1726434700 1726435729
373048249306995925 pacific_gavutu_bomb_counter Gavutu South ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-09-15 23:13:16 2024-09-15 23:37:30 00:24:19 1726434796 1726436250
373394556815069409 pacific_new_georgia_bomb New Georgia ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-09-16 21:37:03 2024-09-16 21:56:39 00:19:42 1726515423 1726516599
373400174632293189 pacific_guadalcanal_conf Guadalcanal Coast ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-09-16 21:58:52 2024-09-16 22:11:01 00:12:15 1726516732 1726517461
373400410855494492 pacific_new_georgia_caves_inv Munda Trail: Bibilo Hill ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-16 21:59:40 2024-09-16 22:26:30 00:26:56 1726516780 1726518390
373500977514737864 normandy_coast_farm_dom Château du Bosq ({mission_type}) domination 2024-09-17 04:30:04 2024-09-17 04:48:36 00:18:37 1726540204 1726541316
373506573857124924 pacific_new_georgia_conf New Georgia ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-09-17 04:51:54 2024-09-17 05:21:01 00:29:15 1726541514 1726543261
373507033418625634 tunisia_cave_conf Kahif cave village ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-09-17 04:53:40 2024-09-17 05:28:52 00:35:21 1726541620 1726543732
373507441440518779 volokolamsk_lake_inv Beloe Lake South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-17 04:55:04 2024-09-17 05:16:42 00:21:45 1726541704 1726543002
373811091333404377 pacific_guadalcanal_dom Alligator Creek ({mission_type}) domination 2024-09-18 00:33:17 2024-09-18 01:04:47 00:31:34 1726612397 1726614287
374106348860189926 tunisia_fortress_inv_counter Fortress West ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-18 19:39:06 2024-09-18 20:05:38 00:26:38 1726681146 1726682738
374430837934393682 pacific_native_inv Tenaru River East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-19 16:38:22 2024-09-19 16:57:09 00:18:52 1726756702 1726757829
374435944650509259 volokolamsk_forestry_bomb The Maisky Forestry ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-09-19 16:58:02 2024-09-19 17:23:38 00:25:41 1726757882 1726759418
374544156351543993 normandy_omer_bomb Omer ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-09-19 23:58:10 2024-09-20 00:23:38 00:25:35 1726783090 1726784618
374845852034308226 normandy_coast_city_inv Ver-sur-Mer South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-20 19:28:48 2024-09-20 19:55:05 00:26:22 1726853328 1726854905
374848544978803144 tunisia_gorge_inv_counter Gorge South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-20 19:39:19 2024-09-20 20:07:02 00:27:51 1726853959 1726855622
374986662537120955 normandy_power_inv Power plant South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-21 04:35:14 2024-09-21 04:50:39 00:15:32 1726886114 1726887039
374988234495151412 volokolamsk_lake_inv Beloe Lake South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-21 04:41:18 2024-09-21 05:10:46 00:29:34 1726886478 1726888246
375157705314732518 pacific_new_georgia_caves_dom Munda Trail ({mission_type}) domination 2024-09-21 15:38:57 2024-09-21 15:54:33 00:15:43 1726925937 1726926873
375164564377505226 pacific_gavutu_conf Gavutu ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-09-21 16:05:39 2024-09-21 16:39:33 00:33:59 1726927539 1726929573
375165015349071374 normandy_station_inv Gare de Saint-Lo South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-21 16:07:18 2024-09-21 16:35:55 00:28:43 1726927638 1726929355
375235903784302224 tunisia_farm_conf Al Jabal Farm ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-09-21 20:42:40 2024-09-21 20:52:13 00:09:41 1726944160 1726944733
375236225906849469 stalingrad_communist_bomb Communist street ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-09-21 20:43:44 2024-09-21 21:13:13 00:29:36 1726944224 1726945993
375299482185192266 tunisia_oasis_inv_counter Oasis South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-22 00:49:13 2024-09-22 01:08:55 00:19:49 1726958953 1726960135
375527626553010449 pacific_new_georgia_dom New Georgia ({mission_type}) domination 2024-09-22 15:34:27 2024-09-22 15:48:09 00:13:48 1727012067 1727012889
375627613391675628 normandy_village_inv La Perelle Village North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-22 22:02:26 2024-09-22 22:17:45 00:15:26 1727035346 1727036265
375965386799729391 pacific_gavutu_bomb_counter Gavutu South ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-09-23 19:53:02 2024-09-23 20:10:44 00:17:46 1727113982 1727115044
376267073892557671 normandy_omer_inv_counter Omer South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-24 15:23:55 2024-09-24 15:42:54 00:19:06 1727184235 1727185374
376656524347121671 tunisia_fortress_inv Fortress East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-25 16:35:11 2024-09-25 17:07:17 00:32:13 1727274911 1727276837
377031973208300136 tunisia_cave_inv Kahif cave village East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-26 16:52:05 2024-09-26 17:23:34 00:31:36 1727362325 1727364214
377386690262338608 pacific_guadalcanal_inv_counter Guadalcanal Coast West ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-27 15:48:28 2024-09-27 16:01:13 00:12:50 1727444908 1727445673
377756847723815794 normandy_station_inv Gare de Saint-Lo South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-28 15:45:04 2024-09-28 16:10:55 00:25:58 1727531104 1727532655
378209000405954687 tunisia_city_conf Al Har ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-09-29 20:59:41 2024-09-29 21:22:35 00:23:04 1727636381 1727637755
378209331118436525 rzhev_city_dom Rzhev: Left Bank ({mission_type}) domination 2024-09-29 21:00:54 2024-09-29 21:20:37 00:19:52 1727636454 1727637637
378547572677926613 normandy_city_inv Le Bre West ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-09-30 18:53:26 2024-09-30 19:12:18 00:18:56 1727715206 1727716338
378895258870499645 ardennes_height_dom Dominant height ({mission_type}) domination 2024-10-01 17:22:38 2024-10-01 17:44:32 00:22:00 1727796158 1727797472
379260739112583368 normandy_village_inv_counter La Perelle Village South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-02 17:00:47 2024-10-02 17:16:53 00:16:12 1727881247 1727882213
379261958883295571 pacific_vertical_inv Alligator Creek South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-02 17:05:37 2024-10-02 17:30:16 00:24:44 1727881537 1727883016
379683724671799960 volokolamsk_voskhod_conf The Voskhod settlement ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-10-03 20:22:10 2024-10-03 20:53:46 00:31:42 1727979730 1727981626
379684016729576117 volokolamsk_voskhod_conf The Voskhod settlement ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-10-03 20:23:24 2024-10-03 21:03:10 00:39:52 1727979804 1727982190
379684386096763623 tunisia_fortress_inv_counter Fortress West ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-03 20:24:45 2024-10-03 20:43:43 00:19:05 1727979885 1727981023
379698353330411865 pacific_gavutu_bomb Gavutu North ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-10-03 21:18:54 2024-10-03 21:39:40 00:20:50 1727983134 1727984380
379981494754454313 stalingrad_entrance_inv Tractor Plant East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-04 15:37:37 2024-10-04 16:09:42 00:32:11 1728049057 1728050982
379993563612557538 rzhev_city_conf Rzhev: Left Bank ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-10-04 16:24:36 2024-10-04 16:43:41 00:19:13 1728051876 1728053021
379993799835758849 tunisia_oasis_inv_counter Oasis South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-04 16:25:27 2024-10-04 16:44:25 00:19:05 1728051927 1728053065
379996419765809726 volokolamsk_voskhod_bomb The Voskhod settlement ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-10-04 16:35:38 2024-10-04 17:02:28 00:26:56 1728052538 1728054148
380358292235370004 volokolamsk_monastery_bomb Monastery ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-10-05 15:59:52 2024-10-05 16:16:57 00:17:12 1728136792 1728137817
380365924392256020 volokolamsk_village_inv Vysokovo Village East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-05 16:29:31 2024-10-05 16:48:42 00:19:18 1728138571 1728139722
380381970390076155 stalingrad_communist_inv_counter Communist street East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-05 17:31:57 2024-10-05 17:55:08 00:23:20 1728142317 1728143708
380741089785602602 volokolamsk_quarry_inv_counter Quarry North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-06 16:45:28 2024-10-06 17:08:47 00:23:26 1728225928 1728227327
380806158540146774 volokolamsk_fortification_inv Fortified district ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-06 20:57:55 2024-10-06 21:19:08 00:21:21 1728241075 1728242348
382222282271033365 stalingrad_univermag_conf Univermag ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-10-10 16:33:01 2024-10-10 16:43:21 00:10:25 1728570781 1728571401
382960539904650930 volokolamsk_river_dom Kamenka River ({mission_type}) domination 2024-10-12 16:18:00 2024-10-12 16:34:08 00:16:15 1728742680 1728743648
382962631553724449 volokolamsk_fortification_inv Fortified district ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-12 16:26:00 2024-10-12 16:50:16 00:24:22 1728743160 1728744616
383051155124676439 pacific_new_georgia_bomb New Georgia ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-10-12 22:09:50 2024-10-12 22:26:13 00:16:32 1728763790 1728764773
383339746862228570 pacific_guadalcanal_inv Guadalcanal Coast East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-13 16:49:28 2024-10-13 17:04:52 00:15:29 1728830968 1728831892
384083764046987257 volokolamsk_voskhod_conf The Voskhod settlement ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-10-15 16:56:42 2024-10-15 17:10:15 00:13:39 1729004202 1729005015
384084124824240166 volokolamsk_voskhod_inv_counter The Voskhod settlement West ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-15 16:57:56 2024-10-15 17:15:19 00:17:29 1729004276 1729005319
384089390454145693 stalingrad_entrance_bomb Tractor Plant East ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-10-15 17:18:29 2024-10-15 17:36:41 00:18:20 1729005509 1729006601
384095905919534527 pacific_gavutu_inv_counter Gavutu South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-15 17:43:40 2024-10-15 18:17:48 00:34:12 1729007020 1729009068
384492803847393641 pacific_gavutu_inv Gavutu North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-16 19:23:54 2024-10-16 19:41:21 00:17:32 1729099434 1729100481
385180956392519746 pacific_native_inv Tenaru River East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-18 15:54:15 2024-10-18 16:13:15 00:19:05 1729259655 1729260795
385296014271428325 pacific_gavutu_bomb_aerodrome Gavutu airfield North ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-10-18 23:20:40 2024-10-18 23:43:54 00:23:17 1729286440 1729287834
385303629248444942 pacific_guadalcanal_inv_counter Guadalcanal Coast West ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-18 23:50:26 2024-10-19 00:08:57 00:18:38 1729288226 1729289337
385619227740356914 rzhev_city_dom Rzhev: Left Bank ({mission_type}) domination 2024-10-19 20:15:07 2024-10-19 20:35:11 00:20:13 1729361707 1729362911
385688548512523395 pacific_vertical_assault Alligator Creek ({mission_type}) assault 2024-10-20 00:44:04 2024-10-20 01:06:55 00:22:56 1729377844 1729379215
385933924289136774 pacific_guadalcanal_inv Guadalcanal Coast East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-20 16:36:07 2024-10-20 16:51:57 00:15:54 1729434967 1729435917
385939932948384841 pacific_new_georgia_caves_inv_counter Munda Trail: Shimizu Hill ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-20 16:59:39 2024-10-20 17:31:17 00:31:44 1729436379 1729438277
386378612318107634 pacific_native_inv_counter Tenaru River South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-21 21:21:42 2024-10-21 21:34:45 00:13:08 1729538502 1729539285
386381610205280606 volokolamsk_village_inv_counter Vysokovo Village West ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-21 21:33:33 2024-10-21 21:59:28 00:26:03 1729539213 1729540768
386715848855249474 pacific_gavutu_bomb_aerodrome_counter Gavutu airfield South ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-10-22 19:10:27 2024-10-22 19:27:54 00:17:31 1729617027 1729618074
386722291306194301 pacific_new_georgia_conf New Georgia ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-10-22 19:35:32 2024-10-22 20:19:29 00:44:05 1729618532 1729621169
386724790977160893 tunisia_gorge_assault Gorge ({mission_type}) assault 2024-10-22 19:45:12 2024-10-22 20:04:27 00:19:22 1729619112 1729620267
387133951036651157 ardennes_winter_inv Mountain pass ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-23 22:12:50 2024-10-23 22:31:29 00:18:45 1729714370 1729715489
387142038460070337 tunisia_cave_inv Kahif cave village East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-23 22:44:12 2024-10-23 23:03:08 00:19:01 1729716252 1729717388
387148493795916829 pacific_gavutu_bomb_counter Gavutu South ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-10-23 23:09:13 2024-10-23 23:27:37 00:18:27 1729717753 1729718857
387217483855597812 pacific_guadalcanal_dom Alligator Creek ({mission_type}) domination 2024-10-24 03:37:17 2024-10-24 04:05:00 00:27:50 1729733837 1729735500
387415967179261987 normandy_aerodrome_inv Airfield West ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-24 16:27:11 2024-10-24 16:49:53 00:22:47 1729780031 1729781393
387418501209966908 tunisia_gorge_assault Gorge ({mission_type}) assault 2024-10-24 16:37:12 2024-10-24 16:51:38 00:14:32 1729780632 1729781498
387425128344505378 volokolamsk_village_inv Vysokovo Village East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-24 17:02:51 2024-10-24 17:23:30 00:20:46 1729782171 1729783410
387815502217041549 tunisia_fortress_inv Fortress East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-25 18:17:42 2024-10-25 18:33:41 00:16:06 1729873062 1729874021
387899666396184369 stalingrad_entrance_bomb_counter Tractor Plant West ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-10-25 23:44:12 2024-10-25 23:54:20 00:10:14 1729892652 1729893260
387903725140279488 volokolamsk_lake_inv Beloe Lake South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-26 00:00:08 2024-10-26 00:32:45 00:32:47 1729893608 1729895565
388163403157987143 stalingrad_univermag_inv Univermag South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-26 16:47:50 2024-10-26 17:07:10 00:19:27 1729954070 1729955230
388169605090763445 volokolamsk_quarry_inv Quarry South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-26 17:11:44 2024-10-26 17:30:12 00:18:34 1729955504 1729956612
388299785549521577 volokolamsk_river_dom Kamenka River ({mission_type}) domination 2024-10-27 01:37:02 2024-10-27 02:01:15 00:24:21 1729985822 1729990875
388304698992108600 volokolamsk_monastery_inv Monastery ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-27 01:56:10 2024-10-27 02:12:53 00:16:53 1729986970 1729991573
388533951461489572 normandy_coast_city_inv Ver-sur-Mer South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-27 15:45:38 2024-10-27 16:07:45 00:22:12 1730040338 1730041665
388537872766631376 volokolamsk_fortification_inv Fortified district ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-27 16:00:48 2024-10-27 16:26:25 00:25:44 1730041248 1730042785
388553867224844022 pacific_guadalcanal_inv Guadalcanal Coast East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-27 17:02:49 2024-10-27 17:18:44 00:16:00 1730044969 1730045924
389016722966079811 pacific_gavutu_bomb Gavutu North ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-10-28 22:58:56 2024-10-28 23:21:16 00:22:23 1730152736 1730154076
389298099158599815 pacific_new_georgia_conf New Georgia ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-10-29 17:10:50 2024-10-29 17:37:09 00:26:24 1730218250 1730219829
389298563015067925 pacific_guadalcanal_dom Alligator Creek ({mission_type}) domination 2024-10-29 17:12:56 2024-10-29 17:37:07 00:24:18 1730218376 1730219827
389651235664712346 volokolamsk_quarry_inv_counter Quarry North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-10-30 16:01:20 2024-10-30 16:23:39 00:22:25 1730300480 1730301819
389994815868584007 volokolamsk_manor_assault Manor ({mission_type}) assault 2024-10-31 14:14:23 2024-10-31 14:40:05 00:25:46 1730380463 1730382005
390358865886590607 volokolamsk_city_bomb Pokrovskoe City ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-11-01 13:47:03 2024-11-01 14:05:54 00:18:55 1730465223 1730466354
390365312632503420 volokolamsk_city_assault Pokrovskoe City ({mission_type}) assault 2024-11-01 14:12:09 2024-11-01 14:39:22 00:27:18 1730466729 1730468362
390373425825727526 normandy_aerodrome_inv_counter Airfield East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-01 14:43:37 2024-11-01 15:11:18 00:27:46 1730468617 1730470278
390562511760974541 volokolamsk_city_bomb Pokrovskoe City ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-11-02 02:57:25 2024-11-02 03:22:40 00:25:21 1730512645 1730514160
390776869283789473 tunisia_oasis_inv Oasis North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-02 16:49:20 2024-11-02 17:05:54 00:16:41 1730562560 1730563554
390782560115458165 tunisia_gorge_bomb Gorge ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-11-02 17:11:13 2024-11-02 17:27:41 00:16:32 1730563873 1730564861
390787422018438547 ardennes_winter_conf Mountain pass ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-11-02 17:30:05 2024-11-02 18:01:17 00:31:17 1730565005 1730566877
390904300963490331 volokolamsk_lake_inv Beloe Lake South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-03 01:03:45 2024-11-03 01:23:38 00:19:59 1730592225 1730593418
390910163593850249 normandy_beach_inv_counter D-Day North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-03 01:26:41 2024-11-03 01:45:09 00:18:32 1730593601 1730594709
390917228815053198 volokolamsk_voskhod_bomb The Voskhod settlement ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-11-03 01:54:00 2024-11-03 02:25:48 00:31:54 1730595240 1730597148
391129236990754354 ardennes_winter_inv Mountain pass ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-03 15:36:45 2024-11-03 16:01:45 00:25:07 1730644605 1730646105
391137126845679057 normandy_omer_bomb Omer ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-11-03 16:07:07 2024-11-03 16:24:16 00:17:13 1730646427 1730647456
391197333697249647 tunisia_fortress_inv_counter Fortress West ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-03 20:00:46 2024-11-03 20:20:05 00:19:23 1730660446 1730661605
391203960831789004 normandy_coast_ruins_inv Ruins of Vaux South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-03 20:26:28 2024-11-03 20:48:05 00:21:40 1730661988 1730663285
391210888614039103 volokolamsk_lake_inv_counter Beloe Lake North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-03 20:53:38 2024-11-03 21:27:49 00:34:19 1730663618 1730665669
391220676844508809 volokolamsk_voskhod_bomb The Voskhod settlement ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-11-03 21:31:28 2024-11-03 21:41:09 00:09:47 1730665888 1730666469
391306657794820225 ardennes_winter_conf Mountain pass ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-11-04 03:05:05 2024-11-04 03:29:44 00:24:44 1730685905 1730687384
391313503972690887 ardennes_winter_inv Mountain pass ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-04 03:31:34 2024-11-04 03:48:21 00:16:51 1730687494 1730688501
391319834754485946 volokolamsk_manor_assault Manor ({mission_type}) assault 2024-11-04 03:56:09 2024-11-04 04:07:35 00:11:31 1730688969 1730689655
391563655752947035 normandy_power_inv Power plant South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-04 19:42:09 2024-11-04 20:12:56 00:30:52 1730745729 1730747576
391574818372951448 normandy_coast_city_dom Ver-sur-Mer ({mission_type}) domination 2024-11-04 20:25:26 2024-11-04 20:44:09 00:18:46 1730748326 1730749449
391656585960343739 tunisia_cave_inv_counter Kahif cave village West ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-05 01:42:44 2024-11-05 02:17:12 00:34:31 1730767364 1730769432
391668706358054328 volokolamsk_monastery_dom Monastery ({mission_type}) domination 2024-11-05 02:29:50 2024-11-05 02:54:23 00:24:39 1730770190 1730771663
391676342809907437 ardennes_winter_conf Mountain pass ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-11-05 02:59:29 2024-11-05 03:36:16 00:36:53 1730771969 1730774176
391908623231237046 tunisia_city_inv_counter Al Har East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-05 18:00:49 2024-11-05 18:26:15 00:25:31 1730826049 1730827575
391931717270392122 ardennes_winter_inv Mountain pass ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-05 19:30:23 2024-11-05 19:53:44 00:23:26 1730831423 1730832824
391939443916559085 volokolamsk_voskhod_bomb The Voskhod settlement ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-11-05 20:00:27 2024-11-05 20:19:48 00:19:27 1730833227 1730834388
392021615230877294 volokolamsk_monastery_bomb Monastery ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-11-06 01:19:22 2024-11-06 01:38:12 00:18:58 1730852362 1730853492
392027735559274733 rzhev_city_conf Rzhev: Left Bank ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-11-06 01:43:01 2024-11-06 02:11:08 00:28:12 1730853781 1730855468
392038511632221512 pacific_vertical_inv_counter Alligator Creek North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-06 02:24:49 2024-11-06 02:52:48 00:28:02 1730856289 1730857968
392311856235873680 pacific_guadalcanal_inv Guadalcanal Coast East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-06 20:05:30 2024-11-06 20:24:58 00:19:30 1730919930 1730921098
392318410355968500 volokolamsk_village_assault Vysokovo Village ({mission_type}) assault 2024-11-06 20:30:58 2024-11-06 21:03:31 00:32:38 1730921458 1730923411
392374300765398824 normandy_village_inv La Perelle Village North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-07 00:07:52 2024-11-07 00:28:23 00:20:36 1730934472 1730935703
392380502698174874 volokolamsk_quarry_inv_counter Quarry North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-07 00:31:55 2024-11-07 00:55:15 00:23:24 1730935915 1730937315
392387868567088261 stalingrad_gogol_inv Gogol street East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-07 01:00:36 2024-11-07 01:33:50 00:33:21 1730937636 1730939630
392399220165652631 rzhev_city_dom Rzhev: Left Bank ({mission_type}) domination 2024-11-07 01:44:36 2024-11-07 02:03:23 00:18:53 1730940276 1730941403
392667458053187709 pacific_new_georgia_conf New Georgia ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-11-07 19:05:26 2024-11-07 19:33:03 00:27:42 1731002726 1731004383
392720707057731935 stalingrad_univermag_inv_counter Univermag North ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-07 22:32:07 2024-11-07 22:55:06 00:23:05 1731015127 1731016506
392727351372139675 volokolamsk_city_assault Pokrovskoe City ({mission_type}) assault 2024-11-07 22:57:58 2024-11-07 23:08:44 00:10:53 1731016678 1731017324
392776043416379467 volokolamsk_lake_inv Beloe Lake South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-08 02:06:49 2024-11-08 02:30:00 00:23:16 1731028009 1731029400
392782661960983246 volokolamsk_grove_assault Birch Grove ({mission_type}) assault 2024-11-08 02:32:33 2024-11-08 03:05:14 00:32:47 1731029553 1731031514
392793420854060752 volokolamsk_voskhod_bomb The Voskhod settlement ({mission_type}) destruction 2024-11-08 03:14:15 2024-11-08 03:36:36 00:22:26 1731032055 1731033396
392990302154930177 volokolamsk_manor_dom Manor ({mission_type}) domination 2024-11-08 15:58:15 2024-11-08 16:09:05 00:10:54 1731077895 1731078545
392993888452622950 stalingrad_communist_inv_counter Communist street East ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-08 16:12:09 2024-11-08 16:31:19 00:19:14 1731078729 1731079879
393055379499411035 volokolamsk_lake_inv Beloe Lake South ({mission_type}) invasion 2024-11-08 20:10:47 2024-11-08 20:30:54 00:20:12 1731093047 1731094254
393071623065727378 stalingrad_univermag_conf Univermag ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-11-08 21:13:55 2024-11-08 21:24:48 00:11:00 1731096835 1731097488
393074839996232639 stalingrad_entrance_conf Tractor Plant ({mission_type}) confrontation 2024-11-08 21:26:19 2024-11-08 21:58:41 00:32:26 1731097579 1731099521

replay data is public info and anyone with little programming knowledge can scrape that data if they invest little time.

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It’s cool that you pulled my data from the matches I played during those months. But it still doesn’t explain why the website I posted as a reference is “trash” as you put it. Since when I asked you prior to my post with this website you only mentioned the replay site. Which again does not have the data for every player that plays every day or month. It just has the matches that are played, so if you go off of only that you are also lumping in Bots which are not live players with accounts. They are the same as the AI squad mates that follow you around in game.

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cause it doesnt reference any real data. it just makes random guess from who knows where.

tell me if you can see the difference between bot and real player.
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here is thread from year and half ago when i got all bot names cause of that difference.

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btw there were usually 2 websites used to see player number

that shows

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here is just steamcharts for comparison.
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and this is concurrent players

and here is other site

which shows
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so tell me if data on those sites is BS?

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Not true, it just says that the data used is estimates which could be data that was pulled halfway through a month or a year just like your data. So, by your statement your data comes from who knows where as well. Because your pulled incomplete data and trying to pass it off as full years’ worth of data at this point in the year which is not over yet. And in fact, the most complete data will not be fully accessible until almost the middle of January due to holidays and numbers being collected posted after the holidays are done.

But according to you concurrent players don’t count as real data because it only shows players that have the game launched and not really playing matches. So, steam charts data is wrong according to your earlier post. You can’t have it both ways when trying to show player data in matches.

Also, since you want to use Steam now here is more steam data. Do you see why anyone’s data could be wrong at this point?

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  • Enlisted
  • 3,934players right now
  • 4,96324-hour peak
  • 7,279all-time peak 2 months ago

https://steamdb.info/app/2051620/charts/

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I won my 10 games in a row with the join any nightmare option lol

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what part of they arent using any real data dont you understand. they used same estimates when replays werent even a thing.
if i had to guess on how they are getting their data it is probably based on google trends or whatever.

not wrong, but also not exactly correct. you could easily login into the game through steam and just do whatever without playing any match and then quit. steamcharts will show you in concurrent players number even if you didnt play any match. it will not show if you played any game as well it will not show people who are logged in through standalone launchers and consoles.

most correct way to see concurrent player number is to actually get all raw data from replay site and count players with userid>0(to make sure they are not bots). that way you will get all players that are on steam, standalone launcher and consoles.

it is basically just copy of steamcharts… they have hourly snapshots.

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They are clearly not just pulling data out of thin air, but they know that it’s not full data. Therefore, they say that it is estimates. And just because you have no clue where they get their data from doesn’t mean yours is the end all be all of data collection and representation. Thats what I’m saying, that’s what I’m getting at. So maybe it’s something that you’re not understanding. Or you think that you are infallible because you collect snips of data and show charts that could be missing pieces that even you don’t know because what if the data the Enlisted website is giving you is not fully complete. Sure, replays are public, but not everything that the devs collect from the game is for public consumption.

What I’m getting at is do you think that devs would be silent if their game was was boasting over a million players in 3-4 months? I can’t think of one that would be silent about a stat like that. Devs are so quick to boast player counts in order to get more players on to their game, but with this its a small peep of we hit over 7k concurrent players. And then nothing…like a fart in the wind.

But back to the original statement that if the game had the numbers of active players that you were stating then the game would not need to use Bots to fill the place of an active player. So, since you want to throw out steam concurrent players and use a tracker for these other millions of players. Then where are they in the overall stats of the game? Why does the game need to fill teams with bots if there is “over a million players playing the game?”

That snapshot was from less than 20 minutes after your snapshot from steamcharts. So, in total it would be your 4665 current players plus who ever logged on or off in 20 minutes from that snapshot. And it’s not so data from any place lie to you, unless you have access to the devs mainframe and can pull data from there you wouldn’t have accurate data. Because even the Replay site only holds data for so long before its removed.

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please tell me from where they are pulling data. it is not replay site and it is not steamcharts.

i estimate that you have 0 knowledge about this.

one is datamined from official enlisted site other made their number up. who would you trust.

like i said numerous times in disclaimers, i could be missing information cause of various stuff. in last data collection they introduced few security measures that i didnt notice it on time so i had few days gap in data collection. still that missing information will be more correct than any other information that is currently publicly available anywhere else. also whatever numbers i have shown will be minimal numbers from that period and could only be bigger.

that is why i can only work with what is publicly available. players, bots, maps, time played etc.
some things are calculated based on game knowledge from data that i have(e.g. deserter count, bots entering match etc.). for data that i dont have i dont claim knowledge of.

cause core audience that plays daily is minority. casuals that play 1 match per week or 1 match per month are vast majority.
just look at this data from weekly analysis from year ago.
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if i included all players from last 3 months i would get over 95% of players playing less than 1 battle daily and probably 80% of them plays less than 1 game per week(this is total shit number out of my ass, so wait for next stat analysis that should come out in next week or two for accurate one).

cause you cant do math. just cause there are 1.8 million unique players that have played the game during 3 months, doesnt mean that there are 1.8 million players daily, nor does it mean that there are 1.8 million players concurrent players.
here is concurrent chart made from data from replay site

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now lets do math for how many people are in queue every minute:
lets take peak of 12k players for calculation:
12k divided by 3 servers=4k
4k divided by 20(average match duration)= 200
200 divided by 4 factions= 50
50 divided by 5 BR= 10

so in most ideal conditions where everything is distributed evenly at peak hour you will get 10 players per faction per BR. what happens in off peak when there are 3k players? 2.5 players every minute per faction per BR. but players are not distributed evenly across servers, factions nor BR.

btw here is early preview of stats analysis

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most bots in game currently happen cause people desert and not cause they are initially matched with them. reason why they dont replace deserters with actual players is cause people hate being put into already ongoing match. also you will never get prematch bots to 0 cause during night for any server region you will have battles with 18-19 bots and 1 player.

check charts which show peak. you have slight discrepancy of few % cause it was taken with few minutes difference between them.

and here we go into the crux of things. what do you think replay site is? it is data directly from devs. not from steam, not from xbox, not from sony, not from some third party website that makes up numbers. check url carefully.

https://www.enlisted.net/en/replays/load/page/1/

that is why people scrap data. before october i could pull last 2 weeks of data from replay site(but it was resource intensive) or last ~12 hours for non resource intensive way. after october i could pull only last ~3 hours of data. that is why i had script getting all data from the site into my databse every 8 hours before october and after october i had it take every hour for 24 hours per day for total of 3 months data.

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Why don’t you do some work for a change and ask them where they get their data from. It’s not my website so I really don’t care at this point. The fact that you’re calling them trash on no basis but some bias opinion of yourself is why I brought it up in the first place.

The fact that they say these exact words on their website right before they start listing charts and data. Okay yep, I know nothing I just know how to read words off a page.

End of the day I wouldn’t trust your data is what I’m saying. Not saying that I trust their data either. Maybe you missed it when I brought up that I really could care less what happens to this game. Oh, wait you did miss it just like when you missed other things that I brough up in past post on this very thread. Damn…

And any other information on any other website could be the same thing. Everyone can miss data at some point. The fact that once again I state that you have some complex that your information is more correct than anyone elses says a lot about you.

And with this statement it further proves my point that I’m making. Honestly what makes your data so much better? Because you mined it from an “Official” website? I bet you’d look like a right backside if tomorrow the devs come out and say yes, we only have 7k players and not the data that we have on this official website of replays. You know that these replays can hold false information as they don’t apply IP addresses to them. So you could be counting the same person multiple times using different “Names and userIDs”.

So, I ask again what is the difference between your “Disclaimers” about you not knowing something and a website saying that “This data is estimates?” Nothing you’re both guessing at some point based on information that you know that is public. But because its “Your datamined information” You have a superiority complex about it and can’t be wrong or see another person side of when it comes to how data is displayed to people. Case in point you first said no concurrent players, I showed you Activeplayers, you said no its trash with bad information and then showed Steamcharts which has concurrent players, I then should you the same steam information from a different website title only 20 minutes apart and it was drastically different. But this was still not enough for you.

Old data, if we went by this data than yes LAST year the game might have been more played and Popular with the player base. However THIS year the game looks like its declined because of many events in the gaming space. For example people leave, people play other things(Lots of other better games have come out), etc.

You’re the one coming up with these shit numbers, maybe you should crunch more data and figure out that 1.8 million is not 7k which actually play the game or as you put it “Launch the game and sit in the menus”. So thanks for proving my point that your 1.8 million players is a farce. 7k players are on average playing the game daily, not 1.8 million.

Not really, some matches will start with bots on the team because the game launches you into a match without filling teams because “Wait times need to be low”. So, your put into matches with more bots on one team then the other. Yes, Bots replace people who desert, yes people hate getting put into prelaunched matches but it still happens.

That is what I’m saying to you. data is not always finite. Depending on when you scrap data is what you get.

But this is also the issue of it, the data erases, mishaps happen during transfer. One person can’t effective scrap ever bit of data at all times. You will miss something, and it will mess with your data. Hence why site will say “These are estimates.” Or in your case you have your “Disclaimers”.

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i am calling them trash cause they make up data. they have not been even close to correct once since i started data mining the replay site and got actual data.

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in other words based on 0 data.

you are missing a point. they are not pulling data from anywhere. they are “estimating” or in other words guessing number of players. this is not missing some data. this is just pulling number out of their ass.

yes perfectly sane explanation. someone is using multiple accounts to play one battle with every account for what exactly? to falsify playerbase numbers for someone who will datamine those numbers?

you what is the difference? my disclaimer says i have f***d up and my script didnt work for hour or 3 days so i missed some data. they on other hand just guess number of players without actually pulling any data from anywhere.

here is part of my disclaimer from last stat analysis

yes. i take pride in my work and when someone who knows absolutely nothing about subject matter attacks my work i defend it. my data is 100% correct unless devs falsified it.

like i said there is reason why you dont use concurrent players as measurement for daily unique players.

activeplayers and mmostats make pure guesses on player numbers. this was true 2 years go and this is true now. they dont pull any data from gaijin nor DF.

what is exactly drastically different? you want to know why?
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difference of ~80 players in few minutes between taking snapshots for different sites. if you wonder in time difference shown on graph, it is cause one uses UTC and one uses local time(CET for me). here is example of how graph can look differently with just few minutes difference(graph is calculated with 1 minute interval)

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that is why enlisted has gain of 20-30% daily unique players? cause it has declined? certainly steam release has made people leave the game…

oh really… i didnt know that… if only there was something like prematch bot stat in my table… btw here are details from your matches. out of your 186 matches only 11 of them didnt have full 10v10.
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if only i dont check same data interval 2-3 times when i scrape data… there is possibility of some data missing if they dont put it on site 2-3 hours after battle finished(just data from october+). otherwise i will catch everything on the site.

this happens when you dont understand anything about computers and programming. when i run the script it will automatically collect all data every x amount of time and put it into database. unless something happens(for which i have loads of error exceptions), i will have 1:1 replay info database.
most missing stuff in my database happens when i restarted computer and simply forgot to run the script. or when they introduced new security measure for which i didnt have error handling. for any data that i have i can tell you that it is 100% correct. not an estimate, but pure fact. unless devs themselves faked data for whatever reason.

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I love when the pershing drinks 6 direct shots from a 200mm pen

But my tiger 2(Maybe a 1month tiger)Gets instakilled frontally with a SOVIET ROCKET LOUNCHER THE PANZERFIST(couse its intened to kill panzer not tanks)

I feel that everybody that know some real combat data left the game, and youtubers joined.

6mil dead german,cca 20,000dead planes,15 tanks

To how manny SOVIET?english? Chinese?/?/?/

Tractor 34 most dead tank in combined history,if stacked all other tank from whenever

But no they decided to make it 1 sided and cod sprint jump aim assist

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Honestly im here from day 1
I have around 150 days playing the game
Today as a jap and a blu team lone fighter i deleted the game for the first time.
Whole day of spawn butchering,and when i managed to do something a team of 2-6 guys would attack me with knowing where im going trought walls,also kills trought walls
Im shooting with a full clip from 3 m away(Bullets fly by like in pulp fiction)But he turnes and 1 shoots me(Numerous timES)
Map burma only north side win.
Players just run jump aim assist( I was playin without untill last 2 weeks)

Bassiacly the shit has never been so bad
Custom dont work
Allied bias
German wonderwaffen are rubish,while they want a m2 1 shot
Im spending a clip or 2 with a SG44 for 1 guy
Sniper 6 bullets to kill 1 guy in a team perfectly running towardce me(Like bullets are vanishing in mid air)

Not knowing the next def point
While the game spawns they got the first point
Also dying of a circle??/ i get the spawn dying but people?From a cold in enemy lands or what??

Kill the aim assist
Give 2 min for defenders on NOT OPENED MAPS
limit turn on pc,and all seeing pc planes.
Give the germans best armour and concilement they had,add the gun plate armour on turret plate ITS NOT 1 PLATE!!!
1 life of squad(Force to buy premium,you like money or?)
Give soviets emphasis on foot and logistics(lets say 2 lifes for squad)Like they had.

But dont put weapons that had 1 madefor testing,or tanks that never was in war

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Well right now you are throwing out 1.8 million players over the last 4 months which is just throwing numbers out. So, by your description your data is trash as well.

I say again there’s some data to ever estimation. It doesn’t have to be the correct value, number, quantity or extent of data. But there is in fact some data in the estimate. This estimate doesn’t have to be an approximate calculation or judgement of the value, number, quantity, or extent of the player base at time of the charts or graphs that they are using. Because just like you they are guessing at how many players are actively playing the game for a given time frame.

Going from 1.8 million over 3-4 months down to less than 450k is one hell of a pendulum swing. So, by your description your pulling numbers out of your ass as well since you don’t even know how many players are actively playing the game as well.

Why is that such a far-off thing to you? Oh, I know because it would screw with your data that you spend so long scrapping. And that would mean that your charts would be off and that would make you just like that website, guessing at numbers. I mean many people play on and own both PC and Consoles. Why not have different accounts on each? It doesn’t have to be to falsify numbers of anything. Maybe they just want more than one account.

Actually their exact words are the following:

It is important to note that these data just estimated numbers and should not be used as factual reference.

Sounds a lot like what you say their just well, you know more PG because they have a website to think of.

I’m not attacking your work I’m just pointing out that there is other “Work” out there that also exist about this game as a subject. In fact, you’re the one that is attacking someone else’s work multiple times in fact.

Which could in fact be the case and you would have no knowledge of it.

Correct they guess at things just like you do when you don’t have all the data on something. They must pull so sort of data if they are posting something about it. And yes, they don’t just pull data from Gaijin and DF. They pull from Ubisoft, Valve, Enix, Game Science, Overkill Software, Wube Software LTD, and even DICE to name a few.

Oh, your sarcasm spills on the page…I’m so impressed…I’m not really sure why you think that bringing up my past matches will prove the fact that bots don’t start matches or are used in general in matches. In fact, what’s interesting in your data about my matches is the fact that only 6 matches did not have at least 1 bot in the match. So, tell me again that bots are not used in more matches than active players? Because you just proved that the 186 matches in that list 180 matches had bots in them.

I understand computers and programming fine. I also understand that just because you program something to a certain task doesn’t mean that it will go off without a hitch, or that data will not be missing or incorrect. Data is only as good as the source that it comes from. So, if the Devs are late with uploads or messes with something than your data is off because you didn’t account for their mistakes/changes and neither did your script. You as the programmer just told your script to look for data starting at this or that time or value in the case of numbers/letters and that’s what it did. It started looking for data at this or that time or value. So, if the devs messed up/change something and put out late information or false information the script you programmed wouldn’t know the difference it will just record the data as is with the mistake and your data will be wrong or have holes because you didn’t accoutn for a time change from them.

And if you’ve been around the video game industry long enough, you’d know there’s been plenty of times with other games that devs will put out fake information in “Official sources or documents/databases” for data miners like you to find and leak or compile and go to the public with the information and the devs get a good laugh from it because they know where it came from and they make changes, or reveal the true data later on.

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where did i say that? also check time period:

100-150k daily unique users
300-350k weekly unique users
~800k monthly unique users
1.8M 3 month unique users

so people want extra account to double or triple their grind? yeah perfectly sane explanation.

seems like they are making up numbers and that is why they shouldnt be used for factual number? if you are convinced that they are using data, then prove it. i have seen that they havent come even close with their numbers over time i started following stats.

from:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/15e7874/does_anyone_know_how_accurate_activeplayerio_is/

Any site that gauges player numbers with 0 numbers from the companies themselves are all speculation and inaccurate.

Not accurate. At best you can estimate trends of a game against itself with those kinds of sites (e.g. trends like this league peaked 30% higher than the last one but has fallen off faster). Comparing between games you can’t know how significant the data collection differences are.

It is not accurate at all.

from:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/1dggnod/is_activeplayerio_reliable/

All those sites are just talking out of their ass since Blizz doesn’t publish the numbers like Steam does.

from:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/14ouugd/almost_30m_active_players_and_growing/

The data activeplayer uses is fabricated. Why would some random third party website have access to blizzard’s proprietary data? Blizzard doesn’t release those numbers publicly. The website is disinformation.

Yeah this is what people should be asking. How does this kind of website access this kind of data? People are so gullible.

and even from their website

How the Live Player Counter Works?

Since no Game Company is willing to share their live logged user’s data. Activeplayer.io went ahead and produced an estimated data. The live Player counter is the result of a mathematical formula in which the base data are from such as the monthly user’s data. Unlike other game statistics website, they are not just randomly displayed numbers. They are the nearest estimated to the exact data!

If you have a concern how the data is presented. Feel free to contact us anytime.

so they have mathematical formula that estimates number of players based on data that they dont have.

oh really? see their statement above. btw my data is binary, either i have it or i dont. i dont do any guess work. there might be some gap ranging from few minutes/hours/days but i am transparent about it. all data is 100% correct.

you said that they start match without filling teams. i disproved that cause it puts you in full match most of the time with few times having problem cause you are playing unpopular faction/BR at some time and they dont want queue times to be too long(i know it waits 2-3 minutes minimum trying to fill the match). also devs cant to anything if people quit during the match. players also dont want to be put into middle of ongoing match or near end of one so they put bots in.

are you arguing just for sake of arguing? or you are just content with writing nonsense?

yes they made honeypot when they enabled replays just for some random guy to notice that you can extract data from it about playerbase. alongside with replay for every one of those players where you can watch how they play.

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btw falsifying data about playerbase is potential felony and no sane programmer would do it without significant benefit to them.

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This is the last time I’m going to answer you, I don’t intend to waste any more time talking to you. I’ve been playing Enlisted for 9 months, in all this time I’ve only made 2 posts telling about a bad experience I had against cheaters, in both posts the one who appeared crying was you, so I wonder, why does it bother you when someone comes here to complain about cheaters? Why do you get so nervous? You should do the same as everyone else, if what I say seems irrelevant to you just ignore me.

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This is going nowhere, and I’m done talking in circles with you. I’ve already wasted a full day trying to explain that the game has cheaters, use of Bots, and now I guess that your numbers are only as good as Gaijin/DF lets them be. Simply because they do not display full player counts anywhere publicly because they do not want to the public to know the true numbers in the game. The fact that you have to dig through data and go around security measures to pull this data proves they don’t want that stuff to be public. So, keep on believing your numbers are true on I will move on. Have a nice day, week, month whatever

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it bothers me when people accuse other people of cheating without any evidence. if you actually showed evidence of it ingame, then it would be justified. but till then you sound just like shitty noob who got pwned by someone higher skilled than them and came to forum to complain about their lack of skill.

you are welcome to prove me otherwise. give me real evidence and not your conjectures.

when did i deny this? i only denied that it matched you with bots from start cause majority of your games are matched with full 10v10 lobbies(unless you play on crossplay off or in middle of night for your server). in lot of matches players that quit prematch are also replaced by other human players.

such weak argument now that the activeplayer.io has been debunked as site with false data.

so do you think that they would leave fake data after trying to prevent people from accessing it? do you think that they would simulate fake games to generate replays that they would then post for public download on their site? do you even know how much work all of that needs, when option was just to never publish replays on site or to integrate them into client with high security? i guess even valve is involved cause half of the playerbase is there. i guess sony and microsoft are also involved cause you can easily check all accounts from consoles.
do you even know that programmer who would do this could be held liable for fraud if this was publicly tradable company(idk how the law is with private ones regarding this).